What is your 'camera for life'?

The emotional experience we got when we had these developed a few weeks ago from a film shot 22yrs ago on a family holiday in Scotland brought a tear to my eye, probably the OM1 but it's not the camera that really counts but the memories associated with it. [These are just phone pics from a light box but look beautiful in the flesh]

This is just one and there's a whole roll of them.

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Treasure those images! You're so lucky to have found those. I made the terrible mistake of opening Dad's SR-T and finding a half shot roll of film inside. That was in about 2007, and the camera had probably not been used since 1981, so I was bitterly disappointed in myself.

I've written about this before: in the 2010s, I found an old Keystone 110 camera that I used in the early 80s, and it had a film cartridge inside. When developed, it revealed four or five very blurry and grainy photos of our old house, and my best friend of that time. It was wonderful.
 
Treasure those images! You're so lucky to have found those. I made the terrible mistake of opening Dad's SR-T and finding a half shot roll of film inside. That was in about 2007, and the camera had probably not been used since 1981, so I was bitterly disappointed in myself.

I've written about this before: in the 2010s, I found an old Keystone 110 camera that I used in the early 80s, and it had a film cartridge inside. When developed, it revealed four or five very blurry and grainy photos of our old house, and my best friend of that time. It was wonderful.

Sad about the opening of the SRT and I've forgot to check the rewind knob in the past so not alone.

I've bought cameras and they've still had film in and recently had one developed from my 'Bowl Of Mystery' and no idea who is in the pics.

My 'Bowl Of Mystery' is a bowl of about 70 films I've been collecting for 25 yrs and now only just having them developed, the previous pic is from one of those rolls, there's even some Ektachrome E4 in there but that will be a challenge as one of the independant Labs in London that could sort of do it, has now closed!
 
If it would last, the camera that has worked the best for me over the years are my Sony RX1 and RX1RII. If I had to choose just one, it would be the RX1RII. The camera almost never fails to deliver images that I absolute adore, mostly stemming from its amazing Zeiss Sonnar lens. I've bought and sold many cameras, and currently own many cameras, but I ALWAYS come back to the RX1RII as a "why don't I just get rid of everything and shoot this?" camera. There are reasons (many of them, actually), but if I were to get rid of everything and just have one camera, that would be it. I often stray to other cameras that are more enjoyable to shoot, but the RX1 always delivers the images that others sometimes don't.

If I wanted to pick a camera that would actually live forever, it would undoubtedly be a Leica MP for its quality, looks, and functionality. Still want one of those even though I mostly gave up film years ago.
 
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If it would last, the camera that has worked the best for me over the years are my Sony RX1 and RX1RII. If I had to choose just one, it would be the RX1RII. The camera almost never fails to deliver images that I absolute adore, mostly stemming from its amazing Zeiss Sonnar lens. I've bought and sold many cameras, and currently own many cameras, but I ALWAYS come back to the RX1RII as a "why don't I just get rid of everything and shoot this?" camera. There are reasons (many of them, actually), but if I were to get rid of everything and just have one camera, that would be it. I often stray to other cameras that are more enjoyable to shoot, but the RX1 always delivers the images that others sometimes don't.

You know, I've wanted a Sony RX1 variant ever since they came out. I briefly tried a RX1 but the colours didn't seem quite right. But the RX1r I tried was much better, so I'm always on the lookout for one of those. As the years have gone by, they have appeared but I haven't had the budget at the time, or I've had the money but correctly priced ones were not available. Maybe one day, eh.

If I wanted to pick a camera that would actually live forever, it would undoubtedly be a Leica MP for its quality, looks, and functionality. Still want one of those even though I mostly gave up film years ago.

Same. I'd pick a MP or M-A as a true forever camera, even though I have an unused freezer drawer full of film.
 
The emotional experience we got when we had these developed a few weeks ago from a film shot 22yrs ago on a family holiday in Scotland brought a tear to my eye, probably the OM1 but it's not the camera that really counts but the memories associated with it. [These are just phone pics from a light box but look beautiful in the flesh]

This is just one and there's a whole roll of them.

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Many years ago I went to an art gallery exhibition of 1900-1930 Autochrome photographs. IRRC it was in Singapore. My memory may be misleading me here, as it was in the 1980s. But I recall that exhibition well, the images on display were not only unique and involving a fine old (and sadly obsolete) photo process, but also superb.

I recall one was an image of the long ago Australian swimming star, Annette Kellerman, taken (again IRRC) in 1915 or 1916. The colors were lifelike and the image was amazingly contemporary in that era of mostly stilted studio-like photos.

This photo from Leon C brings back many memories of those Autochromes.

Not to overlook the photo is an exceptionally fine composition in itself.

I for one will/would be pleased if Leon C would kindly post more. I suggest a new thread, with as many photos as he wants to include, and I hope suitable commentary about each one.

A great bunch of kudos from me to the poster for this!!
 
For the last few weeks that has been my ZI. I don't think it is my Camera for Life but I do love using it. But that is probably true about any camera I happen to be using right now.

It's doubtful Century 21 mirrorless electronics will survive for more than one brief generation. You know, preplanned obsolescence.

May I extend the fond hope that the photographer will long survive the lifetime of his ZI by a long shot.

(I say this also for myself as the happy owner of a Z5 and a Z6 and three super good Z lenses.)

Long may we all go on going on, with our good Nikon mirrorless photo machines.
 
Better to pass it along. Besides, assuming all goes well for you, the 1000 max shutter speed will be useless in all that Light on the Other Side.

Yes, true. That or the heating system will melt the metal.

It will most surely be passed on. Already in the planning. Good things deserve to be used for as long as they go on doing what they do.
 
I've been shooting more digital lately, but I don't tend to think of my digital cameras as "forever cameras." (Which is probably illogical, because, at my age, most any camera would qualify.)

The above being the case, I think my idea of a forever camera would be my Mamiya C330f or my Minolta Autocord CdS-III. I've just never been able to conceive of not having either one of these. (I rather like the Rolleiflex T, also.)

- Murray

I don't think about my digital cameras (a Canon 5D-Mk II and a Nikon Z5 + Fringer EF-to-Z adapter) the same way I do about my film cameras.

I like my digital cameras and I appreciate them for what they do and how they do it, but I don't have the same affection for them that I do for my film cameras. The magic of film cameras may go back to my awe for them as a child, when they were out of my reach.

- Murray
 
The magic of film cameras may go back to my awe for them as a child, when they were out of my reach.

For me it is over 55 years ago. But then I would never thought I would ever own a Leica camera with some Leica glass. However about 20 years ago the prices of second hand (analogue) Leica cameras dropped a bit so I took the chance for a Leica M7 with 28mm Elmarit in an almost new condition for Eur. 1500. When the Dutch distributor went bankrupted I could add a new Summicron 50mm for Eur. 450. And with an nice article about Leica in 2007 in a Dutch photo magazine Leica sent me a new Summarit 75mm for free. So that were the best deals in my life and a I bought the less wanted Elmarit 21mm too (Canada version) together with a new C.V. SWH 15mm mk2 with Leica mount and their zoom v.f. In Germany (Köln) a selling out Leica flash too and my set was more then complete for much money but I think not too much. The whole set I carry in an Aldi (Market) bag, I think it was about Eur. 15. Now I have just orderd an Arax bag, indeed from Kyiv, medium format cameras and repair, a country in war. Just to support them and I don't want to carry my Leica set in a fancy bag because I also have visited Ukraine in war time. In L'viv the fancy cellar of the photo museum with many USSR cameras, above is the café fixage with cameras on the wall.

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Many years ago I went to an art gallery exhibition of 1900-1930 Autochrome photographs. IRRC it was in Singapore. My memory may be misleading me here, as it was in the 1980s. But I recall that exhibition well, the images on display were not only unique and involving a fine old (and sadly obsolete) photo process, but also superb.

I recall one was an image of the long ago Australian swimming star, Annette Kellerman, taken (again IRRC) in 1915 or 1916. The colors were lifelike and the image was amazingly contemporary in that era of mostly stilted studio-like photos.

This photo from Leon C brings back many memories of those Autochromes.

Not to overlook the photo is an exceptionally fine composition in itself.

I for one will/would be pleased if Leon C would kindly post more. I suggest a new thread, with as many photos as he wants to include, and I hope suitable commentary about each one.

A great bunch of kudos from me to the poster for this!!

I'll think about it [A seperate thread] and thanks for the kind words, it could be a while though as only had about 10 done up to now and the hit rate is about 50/50 as there are films in there that I can't remember if they were pushed or pulled as I used to mess a lot in the 90s plus there's films I rolled myself in reusable canisters that I have no idea what film it is, it's certainly a fun but nerve racking experience.

To be continued....And a little taster.

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One of the kids who is 25 now.

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Taken around 1997 at a quite popular music venue in London, backstage after the band I was taking pics for had finished playing. Probably with the F90x, which I still have and works fine.
 
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Probably my Canon 5D Mk II. I bought it refurbished back in the day and kept it when DSLRs went out of fashion. It's comfortable, works great, and I keep coming back to it.

For film cameras, it'd be my Leica M3. It belonged to my uncle and then my father, and now to me. It's in perfect working order.
Talking about the 5D mkII, I have it refurbished too and all my Canon EF lenses are fitting up from 1987 when I had my first Canon EOS analogue 650 camera. Waiting a few years for an older version saves €2500 investment. Starting at €2750, ending about €250 including grip and two 16GB CF cards. A brand new one is now advertized for €1500 in the Netherlands.
 
For me it's the M2, and I have several. Really only shoot them with the 35mm focal length anymore, the older the glass, the better, but so many memories tied up with that equipment. For a lot of my negatives I know exactly which camera and which lens took it, and not only that, but much of the circumstances around the taking. Photography really does cement experiences, which becomes really meaningful when the subjects are no longer with us. I've used a lot of different film cameras, different formats, a whole slew of Leica rangefinders over the last 35 years, but the searching stopped with the M2. Ironically, I'm now considering a digital something as a backup for traveling -- darn those CT scanners! Still think film over digital for B&W, and that's reason enough to keep using it.
 
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For me, yes.

Maybe things are different outside of Australia, but here, a 36exp roll of Portra is $30 AUD. That's not a cappucino, that's an indulgent lunch for one, a McDonald's meal for two, a trade paperback book, a third a tank of petrol, barely enough groceries to last one person a week. Add dev/scan and that's another $20 per roll at a lab. Fuji 400 is $21. Ektar 100 is $30. I look back at the 2000s when you could pick up a roll of XTRA400 for less than $10, and get dev/scan/print for $20.

I'm a compulsive button pusher, so I shoot around anywhere between 50-300 images when I'm out for a day. On a big photo walk last year, I shot about 850 images. With slower cameras like the Sigma DP1 and Leica M9, I still average 500 images on a dedicated photo day.

Film would make such output ludicrously expensive, and decrease my learning curve which is largely powered by constant experimentation. Film would cause me to drastically lower the documentation effect I aim for, and while it may result in more keepers, I get less of the memory archiving process.

At today's prices, $9000 buys 180 rolls of Portra plus dev and scan. That's 6660 images if you allow for 37 exposures, because you'll often get an extra frame or two. That gives 15 rolls a film a month, BUT that's $9000 spent over the course of a year.

My M9 was $9300 in 2010 and has shot over 75,000 images, averaging 4600 per year. Of course, there's hard drive storage, so add another $1800 over the course of sixteen years. I'd never get this freedom with film.

And I don't necessarily need a $9000 digital Leica body to do this; relatively inexpensive micro four thirds and even full frame bodies can be had for a fraction of the cost, $800-1200 AUD for anything up to a Nikon D750. Then it's a couple of memory cards and a new hard drive every few years, and you've got nearly infinite photos for the next 15-20 years at least.

We could do the sums another way. A Nikon FM2 with decent 24/2.8 35/2 and 50/1.4 will cost around $1800-2000 AUD from a reputable secondhand store. That leaves $7000 for film/dev/scan from the hypothetical $9000 digital Leica budget, which may produce less over time if film prices continue to rise. Say you shoot a roll a month, that's only $50 per month, which sounds decent. But you get far less images, and that's not where it's at for me. I need volume and coverage. I realize that my use case is on the right hand side of the bell curve, but that's how I see it.

The hypocrisy of all this is that I'm back to considering another film M body, perhaps a M6 or even a well kept M4-P, which would theoretically outlast any digital camera I own. If was going for broke in a 'camera for life', I'd prefer a new or low mileage camera, perhaps a MP or M-A to minimize electronic issues. And then I'm up to the price of a secondhand digital M body again. Plus $50 per roll. Hahaha! 😂



That M4 is a work of art. It bears the signs of use so well, you can tell this is a well loved camera.
Digital for color, film for B&W. That's how I look at it.
 
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