Trade M10+M10M for M11m? Talk me out of it.

[Freakscene]

Wait wait wait, did I help with this $6k battery collection?? 😂

Yes. 😂

 

[Richard G]

Consulted the experts. Got very, very good advice from my reading of the M11 here - put me right off, months ago. And you’ve taken that advice. Something’s wrong. That’s not what happens. Rest assured I’m still toting my M9- P and Monochrom M. My M5 has film in it. My first Leica is still in use, the M2, which is essentially the same camera as the MA, a current production model. The never out of date film Leica carries over to digital as far as I’m concerned. At least for the moment. The M10s look like peak digital M Leica for the time being too.

 

[Jacob Watrous]

Mark, you're asking for someone to talk you out of it, so here's the shot: you're considering trading a soul for a processor.

The M10M is arguably one of the most intentional sensors ever built. Its 'long in the tooth' nature is exactly why it’s a master’s tool—it’s stable, predictable, and delivers a tonal weight that higher-resolution sensors can sometimes strip away in favor of clinical sharpness. To my eye, the out-of-camera files from the M10M remain superior in their rendering.

I say this as someone who bought the M11M as my first Monochrom. I chose it for the battery life and internal storage, but that was because I didn't have an M10M already. If I did, I’m not sure the 'upgrade' would have improved my work.

I suggest you think of the M10M’s battery life not as a bug, but as a discipline, like the 36-exposure limit of a roll of film. It forces a state of considered intentionality and parsimony. Don’t trade a tool you already have and love for a computer that promises to make things easier (especially in the case of the M11M which in my experience requires post that the M10M doesn't). If the M10 is gathering dust, sell it and buy glass that forces a new perspective.

 

[mrtoml]

Mark, you're asking for someone to talk you out of it, so here's the shot: you're considering trading a soul for a processor.

The M10M is arguably one of the most intentional sensors ever built. Its 'long in the tooth' nature is exactly why it’s a master’s tool—it’s stable, predictable, and delivers a tonal weight that higher-resolution sensors can sometimes strip away in favor of clinical sharpness. To my eye, the out-of-camera files from the M10M remain superior in their rendering.

I say this as someone who bought the M11M as my first Monochrom. I chose it for the battery life and internal storage, but that was because I didn't have an M10M already. If I did, I’m not sure the 'upgrade' would have improved my work.

I suggest you think of the M10M’s battery life not as a bug, but as a discipline, like the 36-exposure limit of a roll of film. It forces a state of considered intentionality and parsimony. Don’t trade a tool you already have and love for a computer that promises to make things easier (especially in the case of the M11M which in my experience requires post that the M10M doesn't). If the M10 is gathering dust, sell it and buy glass that forces a new perspective.

Thanks Jacob and welcome to the forum. I have seen other comparisons of the 2 cameras that echo your thoughts. I am keeping the M10M.

 

[Godfrey]

I must admit I have exactly the same combination as the OP and whilst I salivated a bit when the M11 came out the initial problems (and price) put me off. By the time everything was stable I had cooled down. My only inclination now is to “do a Godfrey 😊” and change the M10 for an M10R so as to have two similar feature sets.

The M10-R + M10 Monochrom is an excellent pair of bodies to have. Same batteries and accessories, same 40 Mpixel resolution, just one B&W and one color. I intend to use them for a long time to come. 🙂

G