FrankS
Registered User
Looking at my RF gear, I can assign roles to particular pieces.
For example, I use B+W 400 speed film mostly (for its versatility) so I'll put it in the bodies I use most, currently the M6 and Hexar RF. These are used most because of the convenience of built-in meters. The M6 has a .85mag viewfinder so it's best with a 50mm lens (my fav. focal length, again for its versatility) while the .60mag Hexar is perfect for a 35mm lens.
My M2 and M3, I'll use for B+W 100 speed film for when I want less grain. A 50 on the M3, and a 35 on the M2, again due to their viewfinder magnifications.
This is of course, not set in stone, and I may use a 50 on the Hexar when I feel like AE with that focal length, or use 400 speed film in the M3 when low light focus accuracy is important.
The Contax IIa will sport a 50mm Sonnar f1.5, while the Contax II will host a 35mm J12 (which won't fit on the IIa) and an 85mm J9 to take advantage of the II's longer based RF. I'll use the Contax when I feel like a different feel than the Leicas.
Sound like a plan?
For example, I use B+W 400 speed film mostly (for its versatility) so I'll put it in the bodies I use most, currently the M6 and Hexar RF. These are used most because of the convenience of built-in meters. The M6 has a .85mag viewfinder so it's best with a 50mm lens (my fav. focal length, again for its versatility) while the .60mag Hexar is perfect for a 35mm lens.
My M2 and M3, I'll use for B+W 100 speed film for when I want less grain. A 50 on the M3, and a 35 on the M2, again due to their viewfinder magnifications.
This is of course, not set in stone, and I may use a 50 on the Hexar when I feel like AE with that focal length, or use 400 speed film in the M3 when low light focus accuracy is important.
The Contax IIa will sport a 50mm Sonnar f1.5, while the Contax II will host a 35mm J12 (which won't fit on the IIa) and an 85mm J9 to take advantage of the II's longer based RF. I'll use the Contax when I feel like a different feel than the Leicas.
Sound like a plan?
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i think you are becoming as neurotic as me frank!
welcome to the club.
joe
welcome to the club.
joe
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tedwhite
Guest
OK, fine. Now I want to know how you go about making a decision about which of the three pairs of cameras you're going to walk out of your house with.
Ted
Ted
FrankS
Registered User
tedwhite said:OK, fine. Now I want to know how you go about making a decision about which of the three pairs of cameras you're going to walk out of your house with.
Ted
Hi Ted. I decide based on if/what film is loaded in what body, what lens I think I'll use most, the lighting conditions I'm expecting, and simply what I feel like shooting with. Variety is a good thing.
If only this could be applied generally in life.
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ruben
Guest
Hi Frank,
I use cameras only by pairs, but with a different logic. Yet before that let me comment that your type of pairs, is the one used by photojournalists and news photographers (by the time film ruled) in order to gain speed of manipulation, saving the time of changing lenses. Going out with different types of cameras prooved a mess, for me.
Taken for granted, like spare batteries, pros don't go out with a single body. And if a back up body, then why not an active back-up ?
Although my pairs division goes like yours, by camera type, my concern for the pair is not avoiding lens change, but widening the ISO range. Thus, I never go out with a single camera, but each camera has a different ISO film. 200 with 1600 is my preferred for winter. Thus I feel I can walk in a street, and enter a low light bar, continuing my photo session.
I use cameras only by pairs, but with a different logic. Yet before that let me comment that your type of pairs, is the one used by photojournalists and news photographers (by the time film ruled) in order to gain speed of manipulation, saving the time of changing lenses. Going out with different types of cameras prooved a mess, for me.
Taken for granted, like spare batteries, pros don't go out with a single body. And if a back up body, then why not an active back-up ?
Although my pairs division goes like yours, by camera type, my concern for the pair is not avoiding lens change, but widening the ISO range. Thus, I never go out with a single camera, but each camera has a different ISO film. 200 with 1600 is my preferred for winter. Thus I feel I can walk in a street, and enter a low light bar, continuing my photo session.
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like2fiddle
Curious
FrankS said:Variety is a good thing.
If only this could be applied generally in life.![]()
I keep mentioning this to my wife, but she doesn't agree
It's easy for me, I have only two RF cameras; Usually B&W in both, a 35 or 40 on one, a 50 on the other. Speaking of which, I'd like another 50. I like the Summitar, but the lens hood is less than convenient (but then again, so are most hoods)
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ruben
Guest
like2fiddle said:I keep mentioning this to my wife, but she doesn't agree
....)
And yet you are lucky it isn't your wife the one continuosly trying to convince you.
like2fiddle
Curious
ruben said:Although my pairs division goes like yours, by camera type, my concern for the pair is not avoiding lens change, but widening the ISO range. Thus, I never go out with a single camera, but each camera has a different ISO film. 200 with 1600 is my preferred for winter. Thus I feel I can walk in a street, and enter a low light bar, continuing my photo session.
Ruben,
I like this logic very much. This bright light/low light is a constant issue here in Vermont, especially in winter
dspeltz
Portsmouth, NH USA
Really interesting thread. I do a great deal of air travel. My MP has Kodachrome, my M8 is what it is, my M3 TriX. But then I have a bunch of other bodies I rarely use because three is enough or even too much. But then I think I should have same film in multiple bodies with different lens configurations but that weighs too much. I find the M8 solves the multiple film and speed problem, except for Kodachrome. At least for all the trravel i do.
But everytime I prepare for a trip I stare at this stuff and reconsider. I actually laugh at how complicated I make it for myself as I try to simplify it.
And then there is the question of whjich lenses to take.
But everytime I prepare for a trip I stare at this stuff and reconsider. I actually laugh at how complicated I make it for myself as I try to simplify it.
And then there is the question of whjich lenses to take.
like2fiddle
Curious
dspeltz said:Really interesting thread. I do a great deal of air travel. My MP has Kodachrome, my M8 is what it is, my M3 TriX. But then I have a bunch of other bodies I rarely use because three is enough or even too much. But then I think I should have same film in multiple bodies with different lens configurations but that weighs too much. I find the M8 solves the multiple film and speed problem, except for Kodachrome. At least for all the trravel i do.
But everytime I prepare for a trip I stare at this stuff and reconsider. I actually laugh at how complicated I make it for myself as I try to simplify it.
And then there is the question of whjich lenses to take.
For better or worse, perhaps this makes a good arguement for digital? One camera, a couple of lenses? B&W, color, fast, slow...
FrankS
Registered User
Hi Ruben. Your logic is also good. 
amateriat
We're all light!
Having just a pair of Hexar RFs as my principal shootin' iron, and three lenses (28, 50, 90), the real decision-making comes down to whether I'm taking black-and-white or color. Ususally the former. And, no, just taking color and doing the "desaturate" thing in PS doesn't do it for me; I photograph with a somewhat different technical emphasis when shooting one or the other, which is simply part of the gestalt for me. But the hardware part is now blissfully simple. Sometimes I might add the Ricoh GR1 or Konica Auto S3 to the mix (in which case, if the Hex's have b/w in them, the GR1 or Auto S3 gets loaded with color, and vice-versa). Keeping the gear thing relatively simple helps keep me (relatively) sane.
Barrett
Barrett
Ken Ford
Refuses to suffer fools
I work with a single M body at a time; my M3 was purchased specifically to use with my 40 and 90, plus the 50 I recently picked up.
I wouldn't mind having a second M6, but I really don't see using the M6 and the M3 at the same time.
I wouldn't mind having a second M6, but I really don't see using the M6 and the M3 at the same time.
Biggles
My cup runneth amok.
I break CLs. I decided to buy another one in iffy shape and send it to Sherry Krauter for a complete spa treatment and cadmium disulphide colonic. When it comes back, if I drop the principal one again (Neopan 1600, 24/7), I'll have a spare available (also Neopan 1600) for follow-up dropping.
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i don't shoot colour so it's b&w for my zi's.
i like to keep a slower and a faster film, in theory, but in practise i seem to have both filled with the same film and just 2 different lenses on each.
i'm not sure why i have the 90 as i so rarely use it.
the 25 and 50 seem to be the combo pair and the 35 is for one/one lens days.
i like to keep a slower and a faster film, in theory, but in practise i seem to have both filled with the same film and just 2 different lenses on each.
i'm not sure why i have the 90 as i so rarely use it.
the 25 and 50 seem to be the combo pair and the 35 is for one/one lens days.
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tedwhite
Guest
When I worked ("starved" is perhaps the more operative term) as a photojournalist in the sixties I carried two SLR bodies (Pentax Spotmatics), both with TriX. On one was a 28/3.5 for getting it all in, and on the other a 135/2.5 for head shots . In a pocket I carried a 50/1.4 for bad light situations. The cameras got beat up mostly by just banging into each other, despite different strap lengths.
Now that I'm using RF cameras, I usually just carry the Bessa R with two lenses, the 35/2.5 and a 50/1.8. Again, the latter is for low light scenes.
BUT WAIT! Now that I've just aquired a Kiev 4AM w/Helios 103 I can actually carry two RF bodies at the same time! And the delightful part is that I can use the Bessa R as a meter for the Kiev. My cup runneth amok.
I've got to have a single malt (or two) now and think about this, as I don't do well with logistics.
English Major Ted
Ted
Now that I'm using RF cameras, I usually just carry the Bessa R with two lenses, the 35/2.5 and a 50/1.8. Again, the latter is for low light scenes.
BUT WAIT! Now that I've just aquired a Kiev 4AM w/Helios 103 I can actually carry two RF bodies at the same time! And the delightful part is that I can use the Bessa R as a meter for the Kiev. My cup runneth amok.
I've got to have a single malt (or two) now and think about this, as I don't do well with logistics.
English Major Ted
Ted
Biggles
My cup runneth amok.
drewbarb
picnic like it's 1999
Biggles said:Dammit, I nearly choked.
Biggles? CARDINAL Biggles? Fetch the soft cushions....
amateriat
We're all light!
No...he must be made of stronger stuff...drewbarb said:Biggles? CARDINAL Biggles? Fetch the soft cushions....
Of course, nobody on RFf expects a Solms Inquisition....
- Barrett
drewbarb
picnic like it's 1999
No one expects the Solms Inquisition! Our two chief weapns are...glass, brass, and these lovely quiet cloth shutters...THREE! Our THREE chief weapons are, glass, brass, quiet cloth shutters, and fanatical devotion, err, precision in the- Oh never mind. Well, go on, you might as well just pretend.
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