£899 - Fuji X100

So, is the X100 the digital camera that it's ok for film users to like?

What would be nice, is an X100 that took film. A metal compact 35mm body, retro styling, quality f/2 lens.... Bessa X-100 anyone?
 
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Snapper_uk said:
What would be nice, is an X100 that took film. A metal compact 35mm body, retro styling, quality f/2 lens.... Bessa X-100 anyone?
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If 35mm lens isn't main factor, there are many compact metal sub-f2 film cameras. There's even Yashica 35CC with 1.8/35 lens which is on expensive side of market of fixed lens rangefinders but I still consider it not expensive compared to hyphotetical film X100.
Better they work on this direction so we have fallback plan in case film becomes rare. I mean, rare.
 
jsrockit said:
Even sillier than being "tricked" by social media marketing is hanging out in a thread about a camera that you don't like...
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Where have I said that I didn't like it? It's fine - a digital Hexar AF. Got it.

But, don't you think the number of threads and pages on such a modest camera is OCD? Someone might need an intervention. I'm here to help.

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I'm talking about having a new compact. I have a Olympus 35RD, but Aperture Priority would be nice and a meter that actually gave accurate readings....
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New? New film camera? Why on Earth one would need that? Film is here for fun, so are nice old cameras. Plenty of both now are available. Cameras are cheap. That's why people this days buy them. Make them cost like they did when new (proportionally to income) and good half of "film lovers" would turn off not even thinking how film costs. Low prices (compared to original) and fun is what moves film gear market, I think.

Aperture priority - that's not Olympus. Yashica is the name. One of various Yashica Electro cameras, be it scale focus, RF or SLR.
 
I keep hear people stating that the X100 utilizes the D90 sensor, "the two-year-old one that's being phased out".

Anyone knows where does this statement originate? Is it confirmed by Fuji or just pure speculation based on pixel counts? Thx.
 
Sensors undergo many design tweeks throughout their production runs. They get "rev'd". I doubt that Fuji is using the "same" sensor as anything did two years ago.
 
Brian Sweeney said:
Sensors undergo many design tweeks throughout their production runs. They get "rev'd". I doubt that Fuji is using the "same" sensor as anything did two years ago.
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I still didn't get my earlier question answered. How does it become known that cameras share a sensor? Like the D7000 and Pentax k-5, or the A900 and D3x? It's fairly well known as "fact" that they share sensors, but was it a press release? guess? mentioned by a designer at some point?
 
Archlich said:
I keep hear people stating that the X100 utilizes the D90 sensor, "the two-year-old one that's being phased out".

Anyone knows where does this statement originate? Is it confirmed by Fuji or just pure speculation based on pixel counts? Thx.
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It's not Nikon, it's Fuji made with "EXR" technology (better dynamic range).

http://www.fujifilm.com/photokina2010/pdf/release/finepix_x100_e.pdf

and yes, I'm saving...

It's gonna be fun how many X100's will show up on the Euro RFF meeting in London by May..... hmm may be none.. ;-)
 
migtex said:
It's not Nikon, it's Fuji made with "EXR" technology (better dynamic range).

http://www.fujifilm.com/photokina2010/pdf/release/finepix_x100_e.pdf

and yes, I'm saving...

It's gonna be fun how many X100's will show up on the Euro RFF meeting in London by May..... hmm may be none.. ;-)
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The d90 isn't nikon either, it's from Sony.

That said, this line makes me think it's brand new:
* The FinePix X100 features a custom CMOS high-performance sensor, internally optimized and developed exclusively for this model.

The first part about it being optimized could apply to a sony-sourced sensor, but the second part implies it's not shared in any other camera, regardless of manufacturer origin. (the optimized part implies they did it, but the second part is more open ended to still applying to a 3rd party sensor manufacturer)
 
Sensors, like most components, have a manufacturer's model number associated with them. The Kodak DCS-200 used a Kodak KAF-1600. The KAF-1601, KAF-1602, KAF-1603e are all pin-compatible but substantially improved designs. Blue range was extended by adding "tin" (I seem to remember). The Leica M8 uses a Kodak KAF-10500. Some reviewers will state which sensor was used with a particular camera. I have not followed the X-100 close enough to know which CCD was used, but- it certainly has a model number with rev level.

My Nikon DSLR has a Fuji sensor in it.
 
Really does depend on how the sensor renders light for me. I'd be looking for the 5D look with subtle tonal gradations but am not expecting it from an APS-C sized sensor, not sure if it's possible. This is the biggest stumbling block in going to a camera like this. Seems like they did their homework on everything else down to the internal ND filter for shooting it at wider apertures to get a narrower depth of field.
 
Brian Sweeney said:
Sensors, like most components, have a manufacturer's model number associated with them. The Kodak DCS-200 used a Kodak KAF-1600. The KAF-1601, KAF-1602, KAF-1603e are all pin-compatible but substantially improved designs. Blue range was extended by adding "tin" (I seem to remember). The Leica M8 uses a Kodak KAF-10500. Some reviewers will state which sensor was used with a particular camera. I have not followed the X-100 close enough to know which CCD was used, but- it certainly has a model number with rev level.

My Nikon DSLR has a Fuji sensor in it.
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Is this something where it has to be opened up to see the model number and revision? or something that is visible in firmware?
 
Roger Hicks said:
Which is, indeed, a powerful argument for the X100 NOT having one. Historically, 'serious' cameras don't have built-in flashes, and X100 wants to postion itself as a 'serious' camera.
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As has been discussed elsewhere, Fuji has implemented a flash "commander" mode on the X100, meaning the small on-body flash can be used to control studio lighting without any adapters, any wires, or any additional cost. While I'm sure the ex-hundred's flash is perfectly serviceable for fill in typical p&s settings, they must have considered the great utility of the former use when deciding to include an on-body flash. That, in itself, might be considered a powerful argument that they're aiming this camera at "serious" photographers, rather than the contrary.
 
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As has been discussed elsewhere, Fuji has implemented a flash "commander" mode on the X100, meaning the small on-body flash can be used to control studio lighting without any adapters, any wires, or any additional cost. While I'm sure the ex-hundred's flash is perfectly serviceable for fill in typical p&s settings, they must have considered the great utility of the former use when deciding to include an on-body flash. That, in itself, might be considered a powerful argument that they're aiming this camera at "serious" photographers, rather than the contrary.
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Indeed, a good point -- though I'd still prefer a sync cable. Or maybe an IR filter on the on-camera flash. You don't always want even a weak flash from the camera position. And, I can't help feeling, not many would choose the X100 as a studio camera.

Cheers,

R.
 
Roger Hicks said:
Indeed, a good point -- though I'd still prefer a sync cable. Or maybe an IR filter on the on-camera flash. You don't always want even a weak flash from the camera position. And, I can't help feeling, not many would choose the X100 as a studio camera.

Cheers,

R.
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There is a whole new generation using flash's on the go. Mayhaps you've heard of "the strobist"?
 
Looks like Adorama and B&H pulled the pre-order, as reported by x100rumors.com. Still available at Henry's and Vistek in Canada for $1200. They ship to US, so let's see if they get pulled.
 
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