12mm images on R-D1 please?

[Taipei-metro]

Sorry i missed your response Taipei.
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LCT

Well, I made the mistake on the lens cropping factor of RD1 for 2x, I'm thinking about Sony R-1 and Olympus E500. It's 1.5x. Canon XT 1.6x 20d 1.55x...
I did not google Leica 28mm 2.8, correct named Elmarit, a Cron is a f2 28mm. Big deal here.
I don't want to betray( or bad-mouthing) Epson again, they donated at least US $20,000 for our last group photo show.
Loretdem's 1st language is English, I lose right there. It's very hard for me, a Mandarin guy to type English. I visited US many times, 'improved' from beat the 'shit' to 'crap'.
I'm talking image quality and the cost of producing such images. He is talking about imitation film M method w digitals.
If he's happy, fine, football's on...

 

[saxshooter]

Phil, click stop at .5 meters would be great for me! I do lots of close foreground snapshots and I often inadvertantly back focus with the 15mm since there are no click focus stops on that lens and closer distances are not marked. I'll be posting the 15mm w corrected VF for sale here if I do!

 

[pfogle]

Phil, click stop at .5 meters would be great for me! I do lots of close foreground snapshots and I often inadvertantly back focus with the 15mm since there are no click focus stops on that lens and closer distances are not marked. I'll be posting the 15mm w corrected VF for sale here if I do!

Hi Charlie (hope I got that right!),

yes, the 0.5m click is good, and so is the closest setting (0.3m - about 1ft) though to be honest, I find the DOF less than I expected - you still have to take a bit of care to get the forground sharp - and forget about bokeh! I'm thinking of carrying a bit of string of the right length to line up shots with a close foreground - like the old chain that came with the minox spy camera - remember those? You would dangle it onto a copy to get the right focus distance. A string with knots at 0.5m and 0.3m would be very useful, I think.

I'm planning to leave this lens on the camera for the next few weeks to get familiar with it. I've used wides before, but this is something else, particularly as it's not on an SLR body. I think you'd really notice the extra angle over the 15mm - I used to use the Sigma 15-30 at the wide end on my EOS 20D, and this is in another league.

 

[rami G]

just to add my own impressions from my new 12mm lens. This lens is so much better than the 15mm on the RD-1. I was using for a whole day the Leica Elmarit asph 21mm allong with the 12 and it was very hard for me to separate the pictures. The even illunation and low distortion makes it look on the 1.5 crop lack the typical wide angel look (which the 21 also lacks, even on film). the lens is an unbelivable bargain and with the useful 1600 iso of the RD-1 and very wide depth of field the combination is so useful that it is tempting just to leave it on the camera all the time. If Leica would not have been on News now with the M7D I would have definitely been tempted at that stage to get an extra RD-1 and to leave the 12mm on one body all the time.

 

[pfogle]

just to add my own impressions from my new 12mm lens. This lens is so much better than the 15mm on the RD-1. I was using for a whole day the Leica Elmarit asph 21mm allong with the 12 and it was very hard for me to separate the pictures. The even illunation and low distortion makes it look on the 1.5 crop lack the typical wide angel look (which the 21 also lacks, even on film). the lens is an unbelivable bargain and with the useful 1600 iso of the RD-1 and very wide depth of field the combination is so useful that it is tempting just to leave it on the camera all the time. If Leica would not have been on News now with the M7D I would have definitely been tempted at that stage to get an extra RD-1 and to leave the 12mm on one body all the time.

Rami... couldn't agree more, except I can't see any way I will be able to afford a digital Leica in the next 2-3 years! But the thought of a 12mm on a 1.3 crop body 😀

As an aside, does anyone know how the 12mm fares for diffraction? I'd have thought that below f8 it would fall off quite a bit, but I haven't seen any reports on this. For myself, I haven't shot below f8 yet; will try soon, time permitting.

 

[loretdem]

I'm talking image quality and the cost of producing such images. He is talking about imitation film M method w digitals.
If he's happy, fine, football's on...

We can agree on the outrageous prices, that's for sure. We complain how expensive Leica equipment is, but even plastic mass produced DSLRs are way overpriced simply because they contain a digital sensor. It's too bad that nowadays most people are so "practical" they'd rather pay for a Canon 5D over a Leica M7. Whatever.
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