1930's film carton?

Here's the auction shots of the last box I missed on evilbay.......

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This was a AGFA USA issue box, in English, it does have Leica printed on the box and would have been perfect for all those owners of Leica IIIa's and IIIb's 1939/40 era.

I have a 35MM Bulk Tin of the same film, what I'm looking for now is the German version of this box ca. 1943/45 stamped.

Well, I thought this would be nice to assist folks to see what these at least looked like etc.

Tom
 
Great thread, I see what I can add to it.

For now, only this:
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These have Kodak film, Gevaert, A Perutz can, an Agfa can, two of the Kodak film cans are still tape sealed. The film cartridges shown are really heavy!

I bought an eBay lot with expired film some time ago. None of the 35mm films have boxes (most have cans) but most of the 120 films do have their boxes and I'll put shots up from those!
 
It is nice to start a thread and find it gets better and better. I do feel smug ;-) And thanks to you all for the pictures.

Anyway, last night I went through all the magazines and books I had from 1935 to the mid 40's and found just two pictures of film cartons. One couldn't be scanned as it was in the centre of a hardback book and curved a lot. It showed Dufaycolor film and the word "Leica" was very prominent on the side of the box etc. Even more interesting were the words "Sensitised by Ilford Ltd, London".

Here's the other advert showing an Ilford film advert;

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Regards, David
 
I have a stack of magazines of the 1930s and 1940s as well, I'll see what I can come up with.

Slightly OT question: I also shoot a wartime FED-S and am interested at Russian brands of the time. Would be really nice to have a non-western box in here, but even knowing what film the Russians used in the 1930s and 1940s would cut it for me :)
 
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There's an extensive display of historical film boxes and related paraphernalia behind the counter at Silverprint in London, which you may be interested in seeing if you can visit there.
 
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I have a stack of magazines of the 1930s and 1940s as well, I'll see what I can come up with.

Slightly OT question: I also shoot a wartime FED-S and am interested at Russian brands of the time. Would be really nice to have a non-western box in here, but even knowing what film the Russians used in the 1930s and 1940s would cut it for me :)
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I'd be interested in those too. And as curious as you are.

BUT, if a deduction can be made from the existing camera literature, the Soviet photographers at that time may have been cutting their film from long rolls and spooled their cassettes with this. So the packaging that may exist could be of long rolls and perhaps not individual boxes.
 
Anyone find anything new?

I'm working a new connection I just met living in Nuremberg, Germany to help find me vintage cartons of pre 1950 film over there soon, I might have some surplus trading boxes soon?

Tom
 
Sorry, haven't taken the time to hunt for any.

I have been given an aluminium 120 film can for Agfa ISOPAN recently, but I'm not sure on its age.
 
I'll mark this weekends calendar days to shoot some of the 120 spool boxes I have and will have a look into those magazines.

Should I shoot all sides of boxes, or just sides with any interesting print on it, what say you all?
 
Well, all sides would be great but it depends on what you find. Or rather, the number you find. And the aluminium box would be interesting as I've one or two mystery tins in the heap.

If anyone's interested I've some minor stuff like US Customs declarations (a little card found in an ERC) and old 1937 and 39 adverts for Kodak and Ilford film.

Regards, David
 
WOW! Krazy.........a 1946 dated box of Kodachrome just sold on the evilbay this weekend for $133!!!!!!!!!!!

That's mad stupid money for a carton, I might have one soon for under $10 without the film can, I can see spending like up to $40 for something rare, but $133???? something's awful strange about that sale, well that's people with money to burn! :p

What's new????? ~ I just received a box of pre 1950 Leica Slide holders, with there slides and glass intact, rather neat looking, the slides are junk but the frames look really kool, I'll shoot some photos of a plie of slides next to one of my IIIC K's soon........

Tom
 
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LeicaTom said:
WOW! Krazy.........a 1946 dated box of Kodachrome just sold on the evilbay this weekend for $133!!!!!!!!!!!

That's mad stupid money for a carton, I might have one soon for under $10 without the film can, I can see spending like up to $40 for something rare, but $133???? something's awful strange about that sale, well that's people with money to burn! :p

What's new????? ~ I just received a box of pre 1950 Leica Slide holders, with there slides and glass intact, rather neat looking, the slides are junk but the frames look really kool, I'll shoot some photos of a plie of slides next to one of my IIIC K's soon........

Tom
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Well, I'll wish you luck with your up and coming sale. But, if you do get a bid for several hundred, it won't be from me.

What I like about ebay is that you can see something tasty with the idiots going mad to spend their money and then search and find one still at the opening price but finishing an hour or so later. I guess the others like competing most. And often the one finishing later has the manual, lens caps and so on...

Regards, David
 
A lot of the prewar films came in either aluminum cans - or simply wrapped in black paper. I have a couple of rolls of bl/w Kodak from 1931. Came in a tin can, 4 spools of film (early pro-pack?). These were intended for loading in Leica cassettes and had a paper leader that you pulled out from the slot. Film is now down to about 1/2-1 asa - but will still work.
 
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Well, I'll wish you luck with your up and coming sale. But, if you do get a bid for several hundred, it won't be from me.

What I like about ebay is that you can see something tasty with the idiots going mad to spend their money and then search and find one still at the opening price but finishing an hour or so later. I guess the others like competing most. And often the one finishing later has the manual, lens caps and so on...

Regards, David
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Ohh I'm not selling anything a May 1946 dated roll (full box) of Kodachrome was sold at evilbay for $133 ~
I bought from the same seller an empty can box (with film/order paperwork etc.) dated May 1946 for $15 and I expect to find a tin can to put the film back into shortly......as soon as I have the box/can together I will shoot it with one of my 1945 IIIC K's ~ the correct era Kodachrome box was the one film company I was missing, I might still look for 1944 thru 1946 German language Agfa film items though, but one correct box of Kodachrome's enough for me, those collectors prices are over the top!!!! :eek:

Tom
 
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A lot of the prewar films came in either aluminum cans - or simply wrapped in black paper. I have a couple of rolls of bl/w Kodak from 1931. Came in a tin can, 4 spools of film (early pro-pack?). These were intended for loading in Leica cassettes and had a paper leader that you pulled out from the slot. Film is now down to about 1/2-1 asa - but will still work.
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Hi, I'd love to see the leader. I've dug up a lot about them but without pictures and mostly in my Periflex 1 guide (sorry, not even a CRF). It says that you got the film with a black paper leader on a plastic inner spool to go in the cassette case. Plus it mentions something else called a universal cassette...

Regards, David
 
More Vintage Kodachrome samples for Reference ~ This time 1946 K 135 A "ARTIFICIAL"

More Vintage Kodachrome samples for Reference ~ This time 1946 K 135 A "ARTIFICIAL"

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Well, here's a collage I just made up with sample shots of the latest vintage film box I have accquired ~ this time July 1946 /expire date Kodachrome A ~ 135 A "Artificial Light" Slide Film.

Box is complete without the tin can, so I have a QUESTION?

Which color metal tin can is correct for this style film, does any of the old school Kodachrome shooters, remember film that old here at RFF?

Normal Kodachrome in the 1943 to 46 era I know was an ALL YELLOW CAN, was the A Film a YELLOW CAN with a RED TOP?

Still looking for a 1943 to 1946 dated Normal Kodachrome box, and any other 1946 dated Kodak and Agfa black and white films for my online Leica Museum/Reference website.

Enjoy!

Tom

PS: As soon as I get the box here and find a replacement can, I'll be shooting this together with my 45' IIIC K Grey....
 
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Thanks Tom, I wonder if there's any experts with Photoshop who could do a clone of it for cutting out and making?

BTW, all my old books say 20 exposures for colour film. So another mystery.

As usual, the deeper we dig the more puzzles turn up.

Regards, David
 
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