21mm Super angulon 3.4 bokeh question

[qruyk12]

is bokeh weird on this lens since it has a "squarish" opening?

 

[maddoc]

Usually I use this lens stopped down, so it is hard to find anything out of focus due to the large depth-of-filed (is "large" the correct term to use opposite to "shallow" ?) but here are two examples taken at f/3.4:

 

[mgd711]

I have been considering this lens or the new CV 21mm.

Does anybody have experience with both lens that can give a comparison?

 

[maddoc]

TomA can surely do ! 🙂 I think he favors the CV 21mm as a more modern lens while the SA is more suitable for the 60s BW look.

 

[hans voralberg]

You cant really see much bokeh with a 21mm anyway, why bother. The only difference between this and the modern 21s is contrast.

 

[nuckabean]

I love my CV 21/4.
Now if only my Bessa T would stop breaking so I could use it more.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3622/3386259463_af4a6e343c.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3586/3436104663_33c8e5180a.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3314/3436086565_8c72487808.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3375/3487832441_4c883b55bf.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3410/3487757537_4e6874ee56.jpg

Sorry, went a little crazy there.

 

[Krosya]

If you want a nice bokeh, I think you need to look at faster lens. Zeiss 21/2.8 (I know it's not what you asked, but wanted to toss it into the mix anyway) has a nice look to it wide open:

 

[35mmdelux]

Nice use of the 21. TKS for posting.

 

[Krosya]

You cant really see much bokeh with a 21mm anyway, why bother. The only difference between this and the modern 21s is contrast.

Well, yes and no. You will not get same bokeh as with CV35/1.2 or canon 50/1.2, but you can have some still - If you have a faster lens - you can see some bokeh, - see my post above. Plus I'm sure that new Leica Summilux 21/1.4 has plenty of bokeh. 😉
Here is some bokeh at 2.8 with 21mm lens:

 

[hans voralberg]

True true, I wish to one day own that Lux hehe.

 

[Al Kaplan]

I wish that I'd shot some 21/3.4 S.A. pix of the miniskirted girls walking by when I was sitting at that outdoor cafe on South Miami Beach last week. They'd be so much easier on the eyes than pictures of snow covered houses. I feel cold just looking at them!

 

[Krosya]

Al, I think you HAVE to go back and take those pics and post them here! But no bokeh, please - stop that lens down! 😉

 

[squirrel$$$bandit]

Is that Velvia?

 

[samoksner]

Is that Velvia?

Looks like ektachrome to me.

 

[Krosya]

No, it was some print film - I was running a test roll in a Hexar RF I just got at that time to see how it works, so it was some store brand film.

 

[kxl]

Another option - Kobalux 21mm/2.8

Another option - Kobalux 21mm/2.8

Kobalux 21/2.8 on an R-D1s. Just got this in the mail a couple of hours ago... so I decided to set up a test shot. This is wide open at minimum focus ditance (1m). No, that's not severe vignetting on top -- It's just the angle that the afternoon sunlight comes in through the window.