Canon LTM 35/1.8 Samples

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Recently I bought a beautiful Canon 35/1.8 from Brian Sweeney. This is a beautiful black and chrome lens that looks right at home on a black Bessa R :) Over the weekend I took my 5 year old son John to the Wisconsin Maritime Museum in Manitowoc, WI. There are many interesting exihibts but naturally the room with running water for toy boats was John's favorite.

Here's a few samples from the first roll I shot there. Fuji 1600, f1.8, 1/250th or so.

William
 

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Plus one more 35 shot.

I also took out my 85/2 and discovered that even indoors it is very easy to flare... :bang: :bang: :bang: This one is about the least ruined of the 85 shots. Next time I use the hood :p

William
 

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You got a great 35mm there, William. Seems sharp with good color rendition and nice OOF.

Also impressed that you are focusing the 85 on the Bessa, wide-open.

I like the third photo best, with the water in the foreground.

Thanks for posting,

Roland.
 
Thank you, Roland. I'd see the view count going up but no comments and was getting worried... ;) The 85 really isn't that hard to focus, though it actually helps that this example is rather stiff as it makes you move slowly; more certainly.

I haven't been using wides as much as I should. Hopefully having one this nice in my bag will push me towards it more often.

William
 
Thank you.

If you can get yourself one, I heartily recommend it. I've read in more than one place that the 35/2 is supposted to be significantly better. Perhaps it is, though I have a very hard time imagining how ... :eek:

OTOH, Mr. Danta Stella calls it, (on this page: http://www.dantestella.com/technical/canoleic.html ) "this is one of the more underappreciated lenses." Right now I find that much more easy to believe.

Thank you, Brian.

William
 
Those shots from the 35 look great. I haven't been super impressed with my canon 50/1.4, but maybe I just need to play with it more.

What kind of film are you using?
 
very interesting to see this combo of the camera lens and film. I like the results - TFP. Bet they have more character than every other digital shooter's blown out flash shots taken that day there...
 
William: I have a Canon 35mm/1.8 and I also question why some people insist that it is optically far inferior to the Canon 35mm/2. My upcoming test of 35mm lenses will include both lenses, and I will be able to see for myself if the 35mm/2 is really much better overall. I tested the Canon 85mm/1.9 and 85mm/1.8 a while ago, and I could not find any differences. It seems that you have to take many different kind of photos to expose any differences between similar type lenses. Roland once commented on this issue. I use only portrait settings for my lens comparisons and he pointed out that in nature photography and close-up images there may be differences you do not observe otherwise. This, on the other hand, also is additional weight supporting the claim that sometimes the less expensive alternatives are equally good for overall photography.

Raid
 
I remember reading somewhere that early on Nikon made lenses for Canon. I wonder if the Canon 35/1.8 is the same formula as the Nikon?

Just wondering out loud?!?

B2 (;->
 
Here are the older Canon lens diagrams (showing the evolution):

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And here is the Nikkor 35/1.8:

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Best,

Roland.

PS: William, it would be great if you could post your pictures to the M-mount flickr group.
 
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I've been using this lens alot, which surprises me given what a 50mm person I am. Here's another sample from last weekend that I got back earlier today. We were at the zoo with good friends and they have a great indoor building with lots of hands on stuff for the kids.

Fuji 400, 1/30th@f1.8 IIRC.

William
 

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This last one I like most... I was looking for shots with this lens because last night I managed to get a 1.8/35mm for less than 300 USD...

Next week four Canon RF 35's will be here. One of them is always in my everyday case, mostly the 35/2. And thinking about a comparison scenario for the 35/1.5, 35/1.8 and 35/2.0
 
I have been play bidding for one of these on ebay. I like the 35/2.8 quite a bit and would like to give this lens a run to see how it performs.
 
Hi Rover,

I hope it wasn't you who drove the price up for 100 USDs the last couple of seconds against me..! :cool:

from what I've seen, the 35/2.8 shows exceptional high resolution, at least in the center. Higher than my 35/2 "2nd version". No color fringig, tree twigs excellent... I like it as a landscape lens, as long as there isn't any backlight.. I wonder why it flares that bad (much more than contemporary 3.5/28!) My example don't show any haze, scratches or that alike.

The 2/35 has the better overall contrast, small prints looking sharper, but at the cost of color fringing and detail resolution wide open. And (no wonder) light falloff to edges (due to small front element). Flare is visible (similar to the 4th gen. Summicron 2/35) but not too much except for strong backlight. For me it's "pushed for speed"

I think about two comparison szenario's. One wide open, "night shot" with light bulbs within the pictures, caffee bar scene or something, medium distance. Uneven background for bokeh results. Second f/8, outdoor, infinity, bright landscape scene with trees.

And of course color negative film. My favorite film is Fuji Superia 200. Is there any with finer grain?

cu, Frank
 
I hope it wasn't you who drove the price up for 100 USDs the last couple of seconds against me..!

No, I haven't bid more than $125 on a lens for a while now. That is what I mean about play bid, there is no way I could win.

from what I've seen, the 35/2.8 shows exceptional high resolution, at least in the center. Higher than my 35/2 "2nd version". No color fringig, tree twigs excellent... I like it as a landscape lens, as long as there isn't any backlight.. I wonder why it flares that bad (much more than contemporary 3.5/28!)

Well, I haven't shot into a strong light with it, but I have not had any problems with my sample and flare, and I have not been shooting with a hood. Since I have not been using a hood I have been careful though, so perhaps I just haven't put the lens in a difficult situation.

From what I have read, the 35/1.8 is similar in signature to the 2.8. Have you seen this?
 
rover said:
From what I have read, the 35/1.8 is similar in signature to the 2.8. Have you seen this?

Hi Rover,

According to the "35 x 4" test Joe (back alley) did a while ago, it's closer to the f/2. From his test pictures I couldn't see much difference in contrast.

The 35/1.8 design is 6 years older than the 35/2, so it could be a low-contrast lens as well. I will find out soon.

Maybe I can find a 35/3.2 and a 35/3.5 too. I wouldn't expect much from the 4-element 35/3.5 but could imagine that the 35/3.2 is underrated by most, since it has 6 elements alike the 35/2.8.

Lately I gathered a nice black Komura 35/2.8 in LTM. Either it's unsharp or has alignment problems. This needs to be checked first.

What triggers me most is the newly arrived 35/1.5. Nobody seems to have facts but all (except very few who have used it) say the lens is a dog. Similar story as with the 0.95/50. If it would cost 1500 USD like a Summilux 1.4/35 from the same era, probably all these people would talk about "special glow", atmosphere and stuff like that... in terms of cold facts this is what E.Puts wrote about Leica's first 1.4/35:

"At full aperture the overall contrast is
very low . Coarse detail is recorded with clean edges, but becomes much softer
when going to the corners of the picture. Fine detail is rendered with low
contrast and even finer structures are lost in the image noise, as contrast
becomes so low as to blur the small details.
The flare level is on the high side. Stopping down to 1:2.8, overall contrast quite
markedly improves (...)
The long production period of the Summilux is a clear indication
how difficult it is to improve on a well designed lens when the parameters are
really difficult (1,4 and an angle of 64º are heavy obstacles for a designer.
Vignetting is high with almost 3stops and distortion is not
detectible. The Summilux, when compared to the Summicron version of its day showed a much lower contrast at wider apertures, but when stopped down had better performance in the field.


Sounds like a good picture taker? Obviously, most photographs, different to Puts, don't have a clue that design of a 35/1.4 is a bit more demanding than of a 50/1.4!

It can be expected the performance of the Canon 35/1.5 is equally "poor" wide open... means, stop-it-down except you must use wide-open, or need the small DOF. At least the light falloff could be a little better due to the large front element, which - on the other hand - could collect wrong light and flare even more than the Summilux.

Well: what's nice about the 35/1.5 - it's much smaller than the 50/0.95, far less intrusive, and can be used on my Bessa's. Let's wait for one or two BBQ/ candle-light evenings where I can take it around, and see the results... :cool:
 
Sonnar2 said:
This last one I like most... I was looking for shots with this lens because last night I managed to get a 1.8/35mm for less than 300 USD...

Next week four Canon RF 35's will be here. One of them is always in my everyday case, mostly the 35/2. And thinking about a comparison scenario for the 35/1.5, 35/1.8 and 35/2.0

Glad to hear you like it. The lens is a wonderful little thing. I've really come to greatly appreciate my inexpensive but delightfull Canon glass.

The 35/1.8 & the 50/1.8 spend most of the time on my Bessa, but I've just gotten another new to me I-61L/D & have been playing with it too... :bang: :angel:

1.8 does seem to be a sweet spot in Canon designs.

William
 
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