35 mm cron' v.4 compare to 35 mm summilux asph?

[monster]

i looking for 35 mm lens that compact than summilux asph

i've used 35 mm summicron asph before and love a sharp result, but i must sold it to buy 35 mm summilux.

but sometimes i looking for compact lens that make a good picture quality, because 35 mm summilux sometime too big to carry in my wife's handbag.

should i buy a summicron version 4 for my freestyle day?


i looking a light , small , bright , and leica tones?


or does i have another choice?

 

[tmfabian]

the new summarit? I can't speak for it 'cause I don't own one, but it looks pretty compact.

 

[alexz]

Can't say from personal experience, but you can either buy your wife a larger handbag 🙂 which of course much more economical solution then a new high-end lens, or change your habit of having your wife lugging your photo gear for you but rather carry it yourself.

 

[Rob-F]

I have both lenses. The ASPH will of course be sharper at the widest apertures, but the version IV is still a fine performer; and at the smaller openings, say 5.6 to 8, the difference in performance is slight. I used my Version IV for a trip to Chicago to save alittle weight and bulk, and certainly did not regret making that choice. The version IV is a great walkaround lens, being nice and compact.

 

[35mmdelux]

IV nice walkabout lens. 35 Summilux ASPH for special days.

 

[Peter Klein]

I agree completely with what Rob_f and 35mmdelux said. I have both. I preferthe Summicron outdoors, for its small size, its bokeh and its classical "look." The Summilux ASPH is amazingly sharp at all apertures, and is better than the Summicron at f/2 (and obviously at f/1.4!). But at f/2.8 and f/4, the Summicron is as sharp as you need, and a little gentler than the Summilux. At f/5.6 and f/8, you won't see much of a difference.

If you can only have one lens and do low-light photography, the Summilux ASPH is the obvious choice. But if you can afford both, it's worth having both.

--Peter

 

[thomasw_]

the lux asph 35 is perhaps my 2nd favourite after the lux asph 50; but for a daytime-compact, walkaround 35, I highly recommend the summaron 35/2,8. check the flickr m-mount group for image samples.

 

[swoop]

lol. I love this thread. It's too big for your wifes purse? Carry your own lenses. Or get her a bigger purse.

 

[anoldsock]

... 35 mm summilux sometime too big to carry in my wife's handbag.

Hahahahahahahaha! That's awesome.

The problem with getting your wife a bigger purse is that you'll have to fill it with more gear.

Anyway, since we're on the subject of size...can someone with a summicron take some measurements of the length of the lens? I'm sure Monster and I would greatly appreciate it.

 

[abenner]

I can't fathom why this thread has been viewed over 200 times and no one has proposed the obvious solution to the aforementioned problem... a second wife, with a slightly smaller handbag! Then you carry BOTH lenses. You see, that way wife #1 still feels good because she's got the bigger handbag, plus the second handbag doesn't need to be as big because it'll carry the smaller lens. Now where's my Guiness. BRILLIANT!

 

[monster]

yes!


looking for second wife :-D


Thanks.

haha

 

[Tom A]

Considering the cost of lawyers and alimony - either stick with the 35f1.4 Asph and possibly add a III/IV generation 35f2 Summicron.
Interesting alternative would be either a 35f2.5 VC II (the first wife would not kill you either, well priced and tiny) or even the Zeiss C Biogon 35mm f2.8. Same pricing as used Summaron, less flare and damned sharp! Slightly different contrast from the "regular" ZM line of lenses, moderatly higher.
I have always like the Summaron 35, in many ways an equal or in some areas superior to the Summicron, particularly in close up and mid apertures. However, it is a 45+ year old lens and to find a mint glass one is difficult (and expensive). It also suffers from "infinity lock" syndrome. With unswerving accuracy, the focus goes "on cam" and locks up when you least want it! The C Biogon 35mm f2.8 is very similar in character, but sharper and more even contrast. I have been shooting with one for the last month (about 40-45 rolls) and it is an impressive performer.

 

[Dante_Stella]

There is no image comparison between a 35/1.4 ASPH and a 35/2 Summicron v4. The ASPH blows the v4 away. I've owned both at the same time and have seen it firsthand. I kept the ASPH.

If you want the same general size and imaging qualities as the v4, get a 40mm M-Rokkor. It's about 1/6 the price, too.

Dante

i looking for 35 mm lens that compact than summilux asph

i've used 35 mm summicron asph before and love a sharp result, but i must sold it to buy 35 mm summilux.

but sometimes i looking for compact lens that make a good picture quality, because 35 mm summilux sometime too big to carry in my wife's handbag.

should i buy a summicron version 4 for my freestyle day?


i looking a light , small , bright , and leica tones?


or does i have another choice?

 

[pfoto]

or does i have another choice?

A UC Hexanon, if you can find one. Lots of threads on that lens here.

 

[Emile de Leon]

It's funny how some here are so quick to say the 35mm Ver 4 is worse than the 35mm Asph. I owned and used the ver 4 for years and it really is a great lens esp at f2/f2.8/f4... after that it is like most other lenses except for the incredible bokeh at all f stops. In B&W it is great, but in color a tad cold, but still ok.

I like a fool... traded it (my German version 4) in on a 35mm asph and quickly found out what the differences were. ...the 35mm asph is generally better in color and sharper all the way thru the f stop range...the ver 4 has in my mind a way better bokeh/feeling at wider f stops and is tiny....which is way good. The Asph handles physically better though and has nicer imagery stopped down past f8 for some reason. Looks great in B&W there. I would own both if I really wanted to shoot B&W a lot and do my own processing. But for color the ASPH is better. For wide open nitetime shots in B&W get Ver 4, the ASPH is way too contrasty, looks like crap, and hard to print.

 

[dreamsandart]

Both lenses are great in slightly different ways, and so I have both in a slightly different flavor flavor than mentioned here; a late German chrome 4th version Summicron and a 1st version Summilux aspherical.

The brass mount chrome Summicron is just a great all around fine lens. Not so high contrast as the ASPH lenses and so very nice for B+W, like any pre-ASPH lens stopping down both increases in contrast and sharpness, and equal to the ASPH in practical use by f4. Very usable at f2-2.8, but for optimal use f4-8 is best. Compactness is a big plus, and the brass mount version feels very solid adding a bit of weight but balances well on the camera.

The aspherical Summilux is the best 35 I've ever had. Very good wide open, and fantastic by f2, a bit higher contrast and very sharp, but no harshness to the bokeh. I like the combination tab and focus ring on this lens, something the ASPH version doesn't have. If I'm thinking wide open or f2-2.8 for low light or the limited depth of field this is the lens I'll be putting on the camera.

Either lens in whatever version will do the job. Throw them up and see which comes down heads first :angel:

 

[BigSteveG]

Why does it have to be 'cron? Why not seek out a 35 UC Hexanon? It's tiny, produces gorgeous color and B&W images and at least as well made as a Leica. The screw mount adapter is reeadily available. And should you ever fancy a screw mount body, you will be prepared w/ at least one lens. I recently picked up a 35 'cron v3 in a bulk purchase and plan to sell it to help defray the expense (I really wanted a 21mm Elmarit as part of the deal). My 35 Hex and 35 'lux asph are all I would ever want. Sometimes the 'lux and it's tendency to flare, even w/ hood, really gets on my nerves though. I've considered selling for a VC 35 1.2 and pocketing the change,

 

[chris319]

Hello,

I'm in the market for a 35mm. I've come across the lux (pre-asph) and the cron v.4. Anyone care to share their thoughts and feedback on both of these lenses?

 

[35mmdelux]

Hello,

I'm in the market for a 35mm. I've come across the lux (pre-asph) and the cron v.4. Anyone care to share their thoughts and feedback on both of these lenses?

LOL. Are you serious? just google this blog and you will get an avalanche of opinions referring specifically to your question. Some people are truly special.

 

[Tom A]

My feeling is that the 35f2V4 is a better black/white lens. The 35 ASph is way too contrasty. To the point that you have to keep track of films shot with it and process for a lower contrast (D 23 or D76 1:2).
The sharpness with the Asph 35f2 is quite remarkable - I use mine as a reference lens against all other are tried.
The V4 is not as "sharp" (real or percieved, as the higher contrast in the Asph gives a sharper impression) but it does have a much smoother tonal rendition.
Both can easily be printed up to 16x20" without problem - and look good.
There is all this "mumbo jumbo" about the various 35 Summicron's. I find that they all do credible job. If you get a V2 or V3 ot V4, you will probably do fine with either one of them. The V3 is even smaller than the 4th generation, if that is important.
The V2 has a weird aperture "lever" and it takes a bit to get used to (aqnd it tends to came loose and wobble too).
I did try a UC Hexanon a while ago. Nice little piece of glass! Unfortunately I do have enough 35's at the moment and could not justify one (Oh, hell - I could probably justify it, but it would have to fall into my lap and be black too).