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well, maybe not such a great test but i tried...
i tell ya, for a disorganized non linear thinker, this was a chore.
place your curser over the pic to see what lens you're looking through.
all shots on hp5 in ddx, same roll of film.
one camera, tripod mounted - 1/60th @ f4
all scanned in one session on canon 2710, no adjustments in photoshop except for resizing.
the scene, my basement, one overhead bulb in a silver reflector and one bare bulb in the scene.
can't think of anything else.
i tell ya, for a disorganized non linear thinker, this was a chore.
place your curser over the pic to see what lens you're looking through.
all shots on hp5 in ddx, same roll of film.
one camera, tripod mounted - 1/60th @ f4
all scanned in one session on canon 2710, no adjustments in photoshop except for resizing.
the scene, my basement, one overhead bulb in a silver reflector and one bare bulb in the scene.
can't think of anything else.
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the same but with some quick photoshop applied.
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here's the 28/3.5 along with the 50/1.5.
both at f4 and with no adjustments and then a bit of quick photoshop.
both at f4 and with no adjustments and then a bit of quick photoshop.
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ray_g
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Aside from the first (35/3.5) showing more flare, I personally can't see much significant difference.
Of course, I think the 35/2 is the best, since that's the only one I have.
Thanks for sharing these, Joe.
Of course, I think the 35/2 is the best, since that's the only one I have.
Thanks for sharing these, Joe.
Bryan Lee
Expat Street Photographer
Now im suffering from lense envy! I only have two 35mm lenses right now. One thing your test does is shows how great digital processing is. I cant wait til the day I can load up twenty processed prints in my computer and then plug in directly to my enlarger skipping the manual dodge and burn because its already done. Thanx for the tests.
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i've had a request for examples at wide open apertures.
here ya go. no adjustments.
here ya go. no adjustments.
FrankS
Registered User
Thanks Joe! Is there any way you can enlarge just a small section of each test shot that includes some text (on a box)? Viewing an enlarged section may tell a story.
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i'm not sure how to do that.
in photoshop i can view at actual pixel size but how would i save a section?
joe
in photoshop i can view at actual pixel size but how would i save a section?
joe
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ray_g
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crop it, resize, and "save as" as different file
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ray_g
Guest
There appears to be quite a bit of vignetting with the 35/1.8 wide open.
The 35/2 looks to my eye (I am getting dizzy going back and forth between pics
) to have the best resolution, wide open (look at the '500' on the box). It should be even better than the 2.8 and 3.5 when stopped down equally.
But let's wait for the crops.
The 35/2 looks to my eye (I am getting dizzy going back and forth between pics
But let's wait for the crops.
xayraa33
rangefinder user and fancier
I agree with ray_g , that 35/f3.5 seems like a flare monster.
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i don't see the vignetting ray but my eyes are also getting tired at this point.
in photoshop, looking at the can of contact cleaner on one of the shelves i think the 2 has a very slight edge over the 1.8 - then the 2.8 and then the 3.5.
i'll try to crop/save a smaller section.
in photoshop, looking at the can of contact cleaner on one of the shelves i think the 2 has a very slight edge over the 1.8 - then the 2.8 and then the 3.5.
i'll try to crop/save a smaller section.
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xayraa33 said:I agree with ray_g , that 35/f3.5 seems like a flare monster.
remember, this is the one that i cleaned (lots of grime on the glass) and there also is some haze still there, between 2 elements that i cannot get at to clean.
my guess is that a clean sample of this lens would be less sharp than the others but not necessarily having more flare.
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should i try for an enlargement of a wide open or stopped down shot?
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ok, the same cropped section wide open for all lenses.
hope this is right... :bang:
hope this is right... :bang:
xayraa33
rangefinder user and fancier
back alley said:remember, this is the one that i cleaned (lots of grime on the glass) and there also is some haze still there, between 2 elements that i cannot get at to clean.
my guess is that a clean sample of this lens would be less sharp than the others but not necessarily having more flare.
I hope so Joe, I would not think that Canon would make such flare prone lens as your sample, mind you that is one of the first wide angles that Canon/Serenar ever made. it is from a different time period than the rest of your 35s.
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xayraa33 said:I hope so Joe, I would not think that Canon would make such flare prone lens as your sample, mind you that is one of the first wide angles that Canon/Serenar ever made. it is from a different time period than the rest of your 35s.
i do think it's the haze as it is way less flare prone now than before i cleaned it.
i'm hoping to find another cleaner sample to either replace this one or repair it.
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taffer
void
Thanks for posting Joe ! They definitely look good to me, each lens seems to do its job well enough.
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i'd like to re do this in the daylight with better light.
this test is more for low light situations.
as soon as it's warm again...
this test is more for low light situations.
as soon as it's warm again...
xayraa33
rangefinder user and fancier
the Serenar 35/f3.5 was a 35mm Elmar copy, Nikkor also made one before the war and went into full production after the war in the Nikon rf mount & in Ltm. The Nikkor 35/3.5 was well regarded, but photographers like David Douglas Duncan used the Nikkor 50mm f 1.5 & the 85mm f2 on his Leicas, but used german glass for his 35mm wide angle in 1950. the Nikkor 35/f3.5 stayed in production till 1960 and was one of the lowest priced Nikkor lenses, with a list price of $99.00
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