dazedgonebye
Veteran
120311393192, 110293416816
Both over $30 now with over 4 days to go. I'm guessing these will go for more than my cheap toy budget will allow.
Both over $30 now with over 4 days to go. I'm guessing these will go for more than my cheap toy budget will allow.
JohnTF
Veteran
Primo Jr. Damn! I just couldn't think of the name.
The condensors on some projectors (not Sawyers...LOL) might be a bit tight for fully illuminating the corners.
Durst made an enlarger, the 404, for the format. These days it might be difficult to find 4X 4 negative carriers for any enlarger. >>
Well, we might have missed that, projecting on the wall. ;-)
I may have been contact printing in those days, I think I have a folder that takes 8 exposures, decent size format at that.
I heard the UK was making this and 620 film for a few years longer than the US. Some of my students used my mom's instamatic to shoot Kodachrome on a western US field trip, the slide projected quite well and square works quite well in presentation. I have a few boxes of mounts, just in case I shoot some.
I think my first enlarger had one carrier, with two sheets of glass, a Federal and I cannot believe I actually was able to sell it years later when I got an Omega. ;-)
John
JohnTF
Veteran
Indeed, in my reckoning superslides are the only justification for 4x4.
Cheers,
R.
Roger, I think I have a NIB A16 back I can hook you up with. ;-)
micromontenegro
Well-known
Indeed, in my reckoning superslides are the only justification for 4x4.
Cheers,
R.
Well, some of the cameras are cute...
micromontenegro
Well-known
120311393192, 110293416816
Both over $30 now with over 4 days to go. I'm guessing these will go for more than my cheap toy budget will allow.
While lacking the Rollei name, the Sawyers usually don't go for cheap. Patience is your friend.
ajishc
Member
I have a Yashica 44 and happy with it. See some of my pictures.
http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=63276
I am still learning how to scan better.
Ajish
http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=63276
I am still learning how to scan better.
Ajish
Seele
Anachronistic modernist
The original Meopta Opemus was a 4X4 enlarger, with carriers for 3X4 and 35mm (24mm X 36mm) supplied.
Muggins
Junk magnet
Just to throw a non-TLR googly into the works, there's always the 1 1/4 x 1 1/4 inch (around 3x3...) Purma Special and Plus... Entertaining, in that hard-to-use-right Argus C3 way, but really of interest as a curiosity nowadays.
Adrian
Adrian
mrb7
Air Head Extrordinaire
I've got a Sawyer, a baby gray Rollei, and a Yashica 44. The Sawyer is the best design of the three IMHO, but honestly the Yashica is the one I bang around with most. I think it's a blast to carry. Small enough to be unobtrusive, but a large enough negative to get good details.
There are several "versions" of the Yashica 44,
so be careful what you're getting. There are the originals, with knob advance and non-bayonet style lenses, there are bayonet style lenses with
knob advance, there are bayonet lenses with crank advance, and there is one with a light meter. Somewhere I found a site that had them all cataloged, but I can't find it now. I don't believe there was that much variation in the Sawyer/Topcon or the baby Rollei.
MB
There are several "versions" of the Yashica 44,
so be careful what you're getting. There are the originals, with knob advance and non-bayonet style lenses, there are bayonet style lenses with
knob advance, there are bayonet lenses with crank advance, and there is one with a light meter. Somewhere I found a site that had them all cataloged, but I can't find it now. I don't believe there was that much variation in the Sawyer/Topcon or the baby Rollei.
MB
Seele
Anachronistic modernist
This page gives you a rundown on the various Yashicas and their lenses:
http://www.onetwoseven.org.uk/articles/yashicaLenses/
http://www.onetwoseven.org.uk/articles/yashicaLenses/
dazedgonebye
Veteran
Just to throw a non-TLR googly into the works, there's always the 1 1/4 x 1 1/4 inch (around 3x3...) Purma Special and Plus... Entertaining, in that hard-to-use-right Argus C3 way, but really of interest as a curiosity nowadays.
Adrian
I've actually been keeping my eye out for a Purma Special. Neat looking thing.
ZeissFan
Veteran
If you're looking beyond a TLR, you could look at a Bilora Bella, a viewfinder zone-focus camera.
An inexpensive camera, it was available in several different styles, including 4x4. This camera can sometimes be found under the Tower brand.
This has just a two-element lens, so don't expect Tessar sharpness.
An inexpensive camera, it was available in several different styles, including 4x4. This camera can sometimes be found under the Tower brand.
This has just a two-element lens, so don't expect Tessar sharpness.
dazedgonebye
Veteran
If you're looking beyond a TLR, you could look at a Bilora Bella, a viewfinder zone-focus camera.
An inexpensive camera, it was available in several different styles, including 4x4. This camera can sometimes be found under the Tower brand.
This has just a two-element lens, so don't expect Tessar sharpness.
I saw one of those too. I'm not a big fan of zone focusing unless ultrawide.
Just not good at it.
dazedgonebye
Veteran
Excellent resource. Thanks.
This page gives you a rundown on the various Yashicas and their lenses:
http://www.onetwoseven.org.uk/articles/yashicaLenses/
Al Kaplan
Veteran
http://www.onetwoseven.org.uk/cameras/kowa/
http://www.pbase.com/cameras/kowa/komaflex_s
http://www.camerapedia.org/wiki/Komaflex-S
Why fiddle with a TLR when you can have a fiddly SLR, great lens, crap mechanism.
http://www.pbase.com/cameras/kowa/komaflex_s
http://www.camerapedia.org/wiki/Komaflex-S
Why fiddle with a TLR when you can have a fiddly SLR, great lens, crap mechanism.
dazedgonebye
Veteran
http://www.onetwoseven.org.uk/cameras/kowa/
http://www.pbase.com/cameras/kowa/komaflex_s
http://www.camerapedia.org/wiki/Komaflex-S
Why fiddle with a TLR when you can have a fiddly SLR, great lens, crap mechanism.
Ok, that's pretty darn cool.
Just the sort of oddball camera trap I'm likely to fall in to. :bang:
Al Kaplan
Veteran
Oddball trap it is! Crap is more like it. I bought one in my senior year in high school. They only cost $69.95 and 127 film was available everywhere, even films like Panatomic-X and Tri-x could be purchased at any camera store. I did shoot a lot of fairly decent yearbook and vacation pictures with it before my repair guy pulled an Exacta V with an f/2.8 preset Tessar out from under the counter. He gave me a fantastic price on the rig but vowed to never again touch a Komaflex S.
mh2000
Well-known
I don't regret buying the Y44... but I think I actually had more "fun" shooting my Lubitels!
(and as wonderful as efke 100 might be, larger negs on every other film is a real bonus... like being able to shoot ISO 400 and stop down to make up for fiddly dim focusing with DOF).

(and as wonderful as efke 100 might be, larger negs on every other film is a real bonus... like being able to shoot ISO 400 and stop down to make up for fiddly dim focusing with DOF).
Not really looking for super high quality. I was considering a Lubitel in 6x6 and then this seemed like a fun alternative.
SimonSawSunlight
Simon Fabel
I got two Yashica 44LMs and one 44 (not the 44A, stay away from that one) but It hink a primo jr / sawyer mark iv or a baby rollei would do the job too 
dazedgonebye
Veteran
From what I've now read, the prospect of my breaking it just playing around would be real.
It's a shame though. The idea of an slr in this niche, that I could easily put fiters on and have no parallax error, seems very nice.
It's a shame though. The idea of an slr in this niche, that I could easily put fiters on and have no parallax error, seems very nice.
Oddball trap it is! Crap is more like it. I bought one in my senior year in high school. They only cost $69.95 and 127 film was available everywhere, even films like Panatomic-X and Tri-x could be purchased at any camera store. I did shoot a lot of fairly decent yearbook and vacation pictures with it before my repair guy pulled an Exacta V with an f/2.8 preset Tessar out from under the counter. He gave me a fantastic price on the rig but vowed to never again touch a Komaflex S.
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