50mm Summarit f1.5 or 50mm Nokton f1.5

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Hi all,

I've been slowly building up a set of lenses for my various M bodies - while i feel i've hit all the focal lengths i like (15, 21, 35, 50, 90) and don't feel i need any more, my 50mm is the Nokton f1.1 which can be quite a beast if my setup for the day is a 2 body 21mm/50mm street shooting kit, working at f8-f16. I'm often tempted to use my 35mm Nokton f1.4 instead just because of it's size, but i just really love the 50mm focal length.

So, i've been considering a more compact 50 for such situations as my final lens.

The CV 50 f2.5 is on the shortlist because it is just so very tiny, but i am a fan of bokeh, so for a little more size, the f1.5 of the Nokton and Summarit are attractive to me should i see the opportunity to isolate a subject.

Oh, i should mention - my budget cannot stretch further than around $700 which i believe the Summarit falls within? And really, that's pushing it. Feel free to correct me on this as it then pretty much settles the question.

It seems that while they're both similarly specced, the character of these lenses seem quite different, each with their own pros and cons - so, forgetting the brand, which do you like of those two, and why?

Does it not make much difference? Is the CV a bargain in comparison? Stopped down, are they much different?

Photographic examples or comparisons would be really appreciated!

(BTW, all my lenses are currently CV lenses, apart from my 2nd 35mm which is a f3.5 Summaron that lives on my M2 - the Nokton was purchased for my M6 TTL and CL in the name of Bokeh and low light use, but i passed on the f1.2 because of it's size)

Thank you for your time 🙂
 
For a classic look, can't go wrong with the summarit. The nokton is more of a modern beast. I had a blind test with a summilux and nokton but wound up preferring the nokton 🙂 The summarit will be a little soft and more suited for B&W work.
 
I would prefer the Nokton, it's one of the best 50s out there for a very moderate price, smooth but precise, and sharp without being clinical.

The whole "classic lenses for a classic look" thing is very overrated IMHO for 98% of the pictures people are shooting here anyway. People buy classic lenses and think it makes their pictures classic somehow, when in fact it's the same old pictures, except a little more blurry.
 
Leicaphile, Erwin Puts had an interesting test on the CV f1.5, even he had to admit it was one of the very best 50mm lenses available ... personally, I'd go for the CV f2.5/50 for it's size, that and I grew out of the bokeh thing years ago
 
nokton f/1.5 would be my choice. great all-rounder, compares well to the lux asph. big though. if you use a grip, you won't have much finger room b/w the lens and grip handle. the 50 for the "only one 50" person.

i had a summarit f/1.5 for a couple years. nice, glow-y soft wide open (wonderful facial highlights) and sharper than you'd think stopped down.

OT: if i had $700 to spend on a 50, and f/2 was fast enough, i'd take the zm planar 50. in fact, i did.
 
Had Both ...their both Great Lenses
Different Signatures for sure

Its Difficult to find a good summarit without haze
& cleaning marks/ though the cleaning marks may Not be an issue
Some 1.5 summarits have that funky swirly oof
Its all a Question of Taste really 😉

if i were to do again ....The Nokton's got my Vote
 
One camera one lens for over 3 years now. The M3 with the Summarit 1.5. Never used a CV anything so I cannot comment on it.

If you want a beautifully built high quality lens. The Summarit is it, much better than the 35 Cron I am using as far as build quality and weighs a ton.

Which lens? What do you want? I have used the Summarit BECAUSE it is soft and BECAUSE it has flare and BECAUSE it produces swirly bokeh. That is what I was looking for when I bought it. It is surprisingly sharp stopped down but it's strength is it's "character". Some love it, some hate it. I love it and exploit it and just finished a documentary with it.

Want a sharp lens for everyday? This isn't it?

Want the best build and prettiest lens? This may be it.

Want soft portraits that most people prefer of themselves? This is it.

It really depends on what you want.🙂 Everybody is different.

Cost? $400
 
I'll throw in a low light portrait shot with the Nokton ... which I sadly don't have any more.


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Thanks for the photos and the comments everyone!

Dave - would you have some good examples of the type of character and swirl you're talking about? The photos posted above don't seem to show that in the lens in my opinion, whereas the Nokton portrait that Sparrow posted has lovely isolation and bokeh...

I am certainly open to Character in a lens, i'm not after the most "technically perfect", just something smaller than my f1.1 that can still perform should i require some isolation.

I wasn't of the impression than the Nokton f1.5 really was THAT big tho? Perhaps i'm just used to the bulk of the f1.1...?
 
Lovely One Keith ...its a Truly Fantastic Gem The Nokton
I prefer it to the 50 Summilux pre asph

Its Easy to Focus, Quick. ALWAYS Dependable and has Grand Character...what more could YOU ask for 😉

I think there is one in the Classifieds , otherwise Camera Quest still has just a few &699.00
 
Thank you Sparrow, lovely photo indeed. I've always been pleased with the Bokeh from my CV lenses!

Would you have any photos of if on your M body to get an idea of size? Thank you 🙂
 
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