kuzano
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My counterpoints...
My counterpoints...
1. So are the desired emulsions in most films. However, my source is eBay. Ruling out sellers with low sales numbers and less than 99.5% positive feedback, I still find enough 120 film to keep me busy for a long time. Even discontinued emulsions. I figure a high count sales seller with perfect feedback is not going to lie if he says his that his out of date film is frozen or cold stored. My cost per roll often in the area of $1-2.50 per roll. I do often find current dated film, but am not averse to using out of date film within reason, if it's been cold stored.
2. I be lucky enough to have a Walmart still doing "send out" processing as marked on envelopes with custom instruction. My last roll of FPH400 took ten days and cost $2.80 for process and sleeve only. 7 good negs, I blew #8. The lab is Fuji. No mail order costs... Walmart ships on their trucks free. Otherwise, there are still many custom labs that are pretty reasonable. Mailing is no more expensive even if you have to mail a long distance to get to the reasonable labs. Processing your own is an option, without a darkroom, although I have never been drawn to that cup of caffenol.
3. See the cost per area in previous post, Plus consider that shooting 220 (fewer emulsions, yes) on 645 gives over 30 shots per roll.
4. Point taken. 40 years now, and I have never been a low light shooter. (the tripod does expand the daylight hours on MF however)
5. Point well made, even for 35mm. I did find my Fuji Zi's very hand holdable, due to size. However, now shooting the 6X9 Fuji means a tripod is always as near as the car.
6. Have use a Zenobia 645 and a Perkeo 6X6, smaller than most SLR's for snaps.
7. See Zenobia, Perkeo, Many early Zeiss folders, and the Fuji used here for size and weight comparisons.
Now admittedly these are fine points. The ultimate decision is not in defending your choice of system, but using a system that delivers your desired need. I maxed out on what I want to do with image capture years ago on the 135 format, and have been using MF predominantly since the late 80's.
The best thing I personally can do at present with 35mm is snap them up at garage sales, craigslist and eBay, to resell them (Yes prices are rising) on eBay to fund my MF and LF pastime.
My counterpoints...
IMHO not a difficult question to answer:
1. 120 film is harder and harder to get;
2. 120 film is harder and harder to get well processed;
3. 120 film cost many times more - less shots per roll;
4. the lenses are hardly suitable to take pics in darker circumstances;
5. even during sunny days, a tripod provides for better results;
6. not suitable for snapshots;
7. in most cases cameras are big and heavy.
I did a lot of MF work but since I got to know the famous Leitz lenses combining with 135mm, I never looked back. Still I like the quality of MF, just recently scanned all my old 6x9 and 6x6 negs and they came out wonderful.
1. So are the desired emulsions in most films. However, my source is eBay. Ruling out sellers with low sales numbers and less than 99.5% positive feedback, I still find enough 120 film to keep me busy for a long time. Even discontinued emulsions. I figure a high count sales seller with perfect feedback is not going to lie if he says his that his out of date film is frozen or cold stored. My cost per roll often in the area of $1-2.50 per roll. I do often find current dated film, but am not averse to using out of date film within reason, if it's been cold stored.
2. I be lucky enough to have a Walmart still doing "send out" processing as marked on envelopes with custom instruction. My last roll of FPH400 took ten days and cost $2.80 for process and sleeve only. 7 good negs, I blew #8. The lab is Fuji. No mail order costs... Walmart ships on their trucks free. Otherwise, there are still many custom labs that are pretty reasonable. Mailing is no more expensive even if you have to mail a long distance to get to the reasonable labs. Processing your own is an option, without a darkroom, although I have never been drawn to that cup of caffenol.
3. See the cost per area in previous post, Plus consider that shooting 220 (fewer emulsions, yes) on 645 gives over 30 shots per roll.
4. Point taken. 40 years now, and I have never been a low light shooter. (the tripod does expand the daylight hours on MF however)
5. Point well made, even for 35mm. I did find my Fuji Zi's very hand holdable, due to size. However, now shooting the 6X9 Fuji means a tripod is always as near as the car.
6. Have use a Zenobia 645 and a Perkeo 6X6, smaller than most SLR's for snaps.
7. See Zenobia, Perkeo, Many early Zeiss folders, and the Fuji used here for size and weight comparisons.
Now admittedly these are fine points. The ultimate decision is not in defending your choice of system, but using a system that delivers your desired need. I maxed out on what I want to do with image capture years ago on the 135 format, and have been using MF predominantly since the late 80's.
The best thing I personally can do at present with 35mm is snap them up at garage sales, craigslist and eBay, to resell them (Yes prices are rising) on eBay to fund my MF and LF pastime.
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Ron (Netherlands)
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Now admittedly these are fine points. The ultimate decision is not in defending your choice of system, but using a system that delivers your desired need. I maxed out on what I want to do with image capture years ago on the 135 format, and have been using MF predominantly since the late 80's.
Of course you are fully right, it is everyone's personal choice and nice if you have the US where you still have plenty opportunity to pick up that 120 and 220 roll film. Here within a very small country, in my town, almost every photo shop has still 135mm film (only one or two tastes - mostly Kodak 200 or 400 asa) and NO 120 film (220 film was only available about 30 years ago). The same with development, always did the 120 myself btw, shops send them to specialized labs which you have to pay for a lot of Euros.
Buying film on internet is of course possible, guess there will be Chinese factories making these films for the next 7 years or so.
Really would like to try a roll of 120 Velvia, but it will be very hard to get it processed here
and the Nikon images posted here would certainly go for my taste
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divewizard
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the Nikon images posted here would certainly go for my tastefine images btw
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Bobfrance
Over Exposed
I'm really surprised folk have so much trouble obtaining and developing 120 film. It's a real shame.
In the UK I usually buy online, but I do know of plenty of shops I can obtain it from.
I do have to send it away for processing, but that's only until I get around to buying some chemicals and start processing my own again.
As for low light performance. I do okay with my full-frame Yashica TLR.

Untitled by Bobfrance, on Flickr

Untitled by Bobfrance, on Flickr
Shot on Neopan 400 f3.5 @1/60
In the UK I usually buy online, but I do know of plenty of shops I can obtain it from.
I do have to send it away for processing, but that's only until I get around to buying some chemicals and start processing my own again.
As for low light performance. I do okay with my full-frame Yashica TLR.

Untitled by Bobfrance, on Flickr

Untitled by Bobfrance, on Flickr
Shot on Neopan 400 f3.5 @1/60
Keith
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Snacks
Established
I'm really surprised folk have so much trouble obtaining and developing 120 film. It's a real shame.
In the UK I usually buy online, but I do know of plenty of shops I can obtain it from.
I do have to send it away for processing, but that's only until I get around to buying some chemicals and start processing my own again.
As for low light performance. I do okay with my full-frame Yashica TLR.
My problem is not developing but printing. By the time I have the negatives printed or scanned, I may as well have had them developed as well.
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