65 Elmar macro and bellows

Try painting with light in color or B&W in macro...just get a tiny flashlight...stop the lens down..way down..and then put all that light exactly where you want it..
I stop down as far as I can..and use the lowest iso speed possible on the cam.. 10 to 15 sec exp is fine..
I just tried this for the 1st time the other day...just like darkroom burning work...in my A7....
Tiny 2.5" abalone shell...


Beautiful images, thank you.
 
Beautiful images, thank you.
Thank you!
This was my 1st foray into painting with light..its a ton of fun I must say...and every image is different..depending on where you squirt that light..
I always had a problem with the shadows..
But not now....!
 
. . . Clearly having a large image circle and only using the center offers advantages to IQ. . . .
Dear Cal,

No, not very clearly at all. Consider a reductio ad absurdum: wide-angle lenses have a much bigger image circle than standard lenses, but rarely if ever offer the very highest quality in the middle of that image area, as compared with a lens with a narrower angle of view.

There is an enormous difference between circle of illumination and circle of sharp resolution. Some lenses fall off very fast; some remain acceptable a long way out, though of course "acceptable" is a bit of a weasel word. A bigger image circle is easier with a slow lens, and a 65mm lens is very close to the 70mm diagonal of 645, so I'm not surprised that it can be used successfully on the Pentax.

Having met a fair number of lens designers, and understanding a modest amount about lens design (including the existence of telecentric lenses) , I'd be very surprised indeed if it were in fact derived from a lens for a larger format, except perhaps in the sense that Tessars existed long before 35mm. But the reason it's 65mm is that 65mm is the shortest lens that will allow infinity focus on a Visoflex.

Cheers,

R.
 
Hey Roger,

I am not giving it (65 3.5 Elmar) legendary status, I leave that for those that really care about those things, I'm just saying I was surprised at how sharp it is and I like the way it forces me to slow down when shooting the things that are appropriate for that type of work.
 
Dear Cal,

No, not very clearly at all. Consider a reductio ad absurdum: wide-angle lenses have a much bigger image circle than standard lenses, but rarely if ever offer the very highest quality in the middle of that image area, as compared with a lens with a narrower angle of view.

There is an enormous difference between circle of illumination and circle of sharp resolution. Some lenses fall off very fast; some remain acceptable a long way out, though of course "acceptable" is a bit of a weasel word. A bigger image circle is easier with a slow lens, and a 65mm lens is very close to the 70mm diagonal of 645, so I'm not surprised that it can be used successfully on the Pentax.

Having met a fair number of lens designers, and understanding a modest amount about lens design (including the existence of telecentric lenses) , I'd be very surprised indeed if it were in fact derived from a lens for a larger format, except perhaps in the sense that Tessars existed long before 35mm. But the reason it's 65mm is that 65mm is the shortest lens that will allow infinity focus on a Visoflex.

Cheers,

R.

Roger,

Thanks for the added clarity and thoughtful explaination.

Perhaps the popularity and the extensive usage of Tessars and Tessar derivatives is what suggests the large format look to me.

Cal
 
Hey Roger,

I am not giving it (65 3.5 Elmar) legendary status, I leave that for those that really care about those things, I'm just saying I was surprised at how sharp it is and I like the way it forces me to slow down when shooting the things that are appropriate for that type of work.
No, no, I wasn't suggesting that you were. Sorry I didn't make myself clearer. All I meant was that some people (not you) praise what they want to see, not what they actually see. I completely agree that it's an excellent, very sharp lens.

Cheers,

R.
 
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