$6999 for the M9, what about M8 and M8.2 prices?

Nando said:
Could the $6999 figure be an introductory price for a limited time? Does anybody expect Leica to increase the price of the M9 before the end of June?
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If not by the end of June then definitely next year - along with the other ALPI that occur.

I can only think of Apple's recent (i.e. today) announcement which has them lowering their prices on a number of products while making those same products "better".

The M9 is the "first" of it's kind (per se - Full Frame) - you'd think the smart move would be to keep the price the same at worst or decrease the price at best with the next iteration of the product - based on Leica's past; I doubt that's going to happen.

M9.2 will be a 24MP FF M body with better High ISO and cost $9,000 USD - and there will still be more than enough folks to buy it :)

Cheers,
Dave
 
CameraQuest said:
Wow, $6999 for a USA M9. Most predictions were in the $7500 to $9000 range. Looks like Leica priced it right to increase sales. But of course $6999 is still a lot for a camera body, any camera body.

Stephen
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Your comment accidentally answer another common question often asked in this forum: "Is the M-whatever a pro camera?". Answer: "Probably most of the times it is not".

A Hasselblad series H3D, which goes I believe for about 26,000 US$, probably is and as such at Hasselblad they offer leasing plans, if the M9 really was the life-changing machine pro were waiting for maybe 7,000 US$ not olny would not be considered such an high price but would even be thought to be a cheap price...

GLF
 
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dcsang said:
M9.2 will be a 24MP FF M body with better High ISO and cost $9,000 USD - and there will still be more than enough folks to buy it
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The only hopes I have for the M9.2 are viewfinder options and this time I'll spend the extra money on the sapphire glass because it really is a camera I'd expect to keep for life.
 
I predict that M9 will be the hit-the-jackpot moment for Leica.

Consider this, what have so far held people at bay when it comes to a digital Leica? crop-sensor.

Once that's out of the way, many DSLR users who secretly wanted a Leica (with the convenience of digital, of course) will go for it.

I also predict the spike on well-heeled digital people getting to know this "manual focusing" -thing :rolleyes:
 
"Once that's out of the way, many DSLR users who secretly wanted a Leica (with the convenience of digital, of course) will go for it."

I don't know. They would still have to buy into a collection of expensive lenses. We continually here overestimate the market for new RF's in general and DRF's in particular.
 
Once we enter the digital camera arena, we need to expect cameras to depreciate in a similar fashion as computer do each year. Longevity of any specific digital camera is questionable. We are in the disposable items age.
 
Dante_Stella said:
I suspect that a lot of M8/M8.2 owners will dig in their heels and wait for the M9 to come down in price (once burned, twice shy...).
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Yes, and make sure there are no technoglitches this time. The M4, M5, M6 classic, M6TTL and M7 all had introductory glitches. Nikon has had at least three high profile glitches since getting into DSLRs. The M8 saga was not unique to the film/digital transition nor unique to Leica.

I continue to be surprised, by the way, at how candid LFI's coverage of the M8 was. High marks for journalistic independence relative to what passes for "journalism" in most of today's media.
 
Hi all...

If you can bare my personal thoughts on this. I have an M8 and a couple of MPs. My M8's not yet for sale... Here are my reasons:

1.) The price point is attractive for the M9, but honestly too big to make me change.
2.) I like the M8! Rrendering of the M8 for dark shots with reflections is very pleasing, and I like using the camera as a close up for impromptu snapshots in tight areas with my 28mm f2. Especially at gatherings, parties, etc. The flexibility is better than with my MP. The M9 doesn't change this.
3.) Finally, I really have started using my 50 Lux ASPH as on my M8 frequently at 1.4. There's no substitute in Leica's current lens line up.

So, I won't be switching over to the M9 any time soon and selling my M8 along the way. I would need to find a good 75mm 1.4 lens in addtion to the M9. That all adds up. And, I'm not that rich... But, it looks like Leica did a good job!!! The M9'll probably be a great camera.

Cheers, JP
 
raid said:
Once we enter the digital camera arena, we need to expect cameras to depreciate in a similar fashion as computer do each year. Longevity of any specific digital camera is questionable. We are in the disposable items age.
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Dear Raid,

What improvements do you expect in an M9.2 or M10?

More megapixels (18 is enough for publication)? A different rangefinder? A different lens mount? Better manual focus? Better metering? More shutter speeds? What? Sure, higher ISO/less noise is possible, but again, if you're merely earnng a living with a camera, instead of buying bragging rights, how much more do you need than ISO 2500? Some do, perhaps, but not many. Likewise you can improve AWB and everything else; but an awful lot of buyers aren't going to care, because the M8.2 is already good enough.

In other words, likening an M9 to a computer, merely because both contain a lot of electronics, is facile and shallow. I really believe that it won't depreciate at anything like the rate of low-end consumer products, because it isn't a low-end consumer product and because it's aimed at photographers, not at computer nerds who play memory-hungry games on machines that are more powerful than those which NASA used to put a man on the moon.

Cheers,

R.
 
Home Run !!!!

Home Run !!!!

I think Leica really hit a home run with the M9, a full frame RF!!! & priced in between the D3x and the D3. It even looks like a M series camera, I love it !!! Let's face it, we have to pay through the nose for just about anything Leica makes. If the M8 starts selling for $1900 that's still alot of money for most of us.
I'm just glad to see Leica, once again, make such a fine camera. (even if I can't buy one):bang:
 
That jackpot moment might take some time to arrive.

I just took a look in the Classifieds section, and the sudden increase of ads I expected has not (yet?) set in.

When the brochure was leaked, there suddenly was some very nice gear for sale. Not the case now.

I guess people need some time to decide what to sell to raise the funds. I'm not planning to sell any gear to pay for the M9, so I guess it'll take me a couple of years to get me one.

In the mean time, lets see if I can pick up a bargain price, clean, usergrade M5 somewhere next month?:rolleyes: Maybe a nice Canon 50mm f1.5 to go with it?:)
 
See no use to sell M8 for pennies for the owners immediately. For the price of 2000 better to keep it as we see that we can not buy something good (slr with FF) for 2k.

Then it should be clear that only few cams went to Solms since sales started

The total investment in two years (if we suppose the prise for used M8 is 2 k ) will be 5500-3000+6999=9500
Next two years they will make M10 and investments will rise again.
Leica M15 accruals will be circa 20k???

And here we come to a question whether Leica is so damn cool?
 
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shadowfox said:
I predict that M9 will be the hit-the-jackpot moment for Leica.

Consider this, what have so far held people at bay when it comes to a digital Leica? crop-sensor.

Once that's out of the way, many DSLR users who secretly wanted a Leica (with the convenience of digital, of course) will go for it.

I also predict the spike on well-heeled digital people getting to know this "manual focusing" -thing :rolleyes:
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I suspect that there will be a fair number used M9s available within 6-9 mo of its release... folks moving over from dSLRs will probably be disappointed - lack of AF will be a killer for those migrating from high frame rate, AF dSLRs... folks will come to the harsh realization that the M9 doesn't take any better pics than their 5DMKii, D700/D3, which cost less AND offer AF ;P
 
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