70mm Film FUN up ahead

Good idea Thanks! regarding finding a machine shop to cut it down. Actually I have discovered a big shop ten minutes from my home. Can't get any easier than that.
 
Here I'm shooting up some old Plus-X 2402 Aerographic. This film shows great promise for pictorial work. I do have about 300 feet of it in the freezer. I may try processing it in HC110 "A" dilution in the Kindermann

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I spent part of the morning looking for a local machine shop, with a large band saw, who would be willing to cut down my JOBO 3063. They all said the same thing, they don't want the liability, and EXPENSIVE ....................

Then I called my local auto mechanic (ten minutes away), and he has a friend with a large band saw. He will run the 3063 over to his place and cut it for me. And I trust him to not jack it up. And he says "no charge" since I'm a good auto repair customer.
I showed him photos of the JOBO drum, I'm sure it will be perfect when he's finished.

Life is good. :)
 
Nokton48 said:
I spent part of the morning looking for a local machine shop, with a large band saw, who would be willing to cut down my JOBO 3063. They all said the same thing, they don't want the liability, and EXPENSIVE ....................

Then I called my local auto mechanic, and he has a friend with a large band saw. He will run the 3063 over to his place and cut it for me. And I trust him to not jack it up. And he says "no charge" since I'm a good auto repair customer.

Life is good. :)
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Just tell him to use a good face mask, that stuff is probably no good down in your lungs. Congrats on your purchase, that drum looks really big. Is it much wider than the NDT reels? Sometimes I wonder how many different drums Jobo have made, I've certainly lost count of them.
 
Kai-san said:
Just tell him to use a good face mask, that stuff is probably no good down in your lungs. Congrats on your purchase, that drum looks really big. Is it much wider than the NDT reels? Sometimes I wonder how many different drums Jobo have made, I've certainly lost count of them.
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I'll remind him to wear a mask. Nobody I have asked has responded back with tank diameters (including CatLabs), but the 3063 is certainly big enough to hold the NDTs, and I can build up the inside, if I feel the need. Will report on all of this as soon as this is sorted out. This tank will certainly be one of a kind, at least for now. It will be perfect for my needs, having multiple backs, cameras, and films. My guess is that JOBO did not offer tanks in very many different diameters, at least in the 3000 series.
 
If anybody here is interested, there is a Guy over on Apug that started a thread, he has a hundred and fifty 100' rolls of 70mm unperfed color and B&W Portra C41 films. That is quite a find! I don't know the Guy and although I talked to him privately I'm really not interested (I have PLENTY of 70mm perfed film). Here is the thread in case anybody here wants to contact him through the forum over there. He does want to sell this stuff.

https://www.photrio.com/forum/threads/70mm-film-value.156824/#post-2035340

EDIT: He's asking me about 70mm prices and right now he's at about $60/roll and he's open to offers buying in quantity.
No Affiliation to the seller whatsoever. Some here like to shoot and develop C41 I know.
 
Nokton48 said:
While I am at it, I might as well get a real JOBO foot pump. I just got this one for $35

jobo foot pump by Nokton48, on Flickr
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Just in case you don't know, only use the foot pump with a tank full of water. If you don't have any water in the tank, you will shoot the lid across the room! Not kidding, ask anyone that has done it. I spit my lip once... Once... That is all it took. Lol.

Just thought I would throw that out there for anyone inclined to use a foot pump. I ease the lid off my 3010 these days with my thumb and only use the pump as a last resort.
 
Thank you Patrick!

You know, I played and replayed Catlabs youtube on using the pump, and he doesn't mention this at all. But thinking about it, I would need to remove the lid after it's been washing, and I always run water into the tanks as habit, even before I start the actual wash time. But I will be careful not to turn the tank lid into a projectile......

Never got much of a response from Catlabs with my questions. Guess he is busy.
 
The suction bulb for my Mamiya 70mm back arrived today, but it might just as well have gone missing! :mad: It was packed in a flimsy plastic bag with a very thin lining, and the box was crushed. The bulb itself is permanently compressed and I cannot get it back to its original round shape. In addition the suction hose was loose and should have to be glued to the bulb to work.
To make make matters even worse I have waited since December 9th for it to arrive from the US. I have asked the seller to sort it out, he has one more for sale on the bay.
 

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The information here is excellent! I've been bitten by the 70mm film bug and have been reading as much as I can on the subject. I'm thinking about giving this a try, so I'm thinking about using a Mamiya RB with the Mamiya 70m film holder. But something caught my eye. What is the suction bulb for? Also, what is the name exactly of the canisters the film goes in? I thought about maybe using a 616 camera but I don't want to deal with a camera that old. Thought about a couple other options. Scanning seems to be the last issue I'd have. I use an Epson V500 and I think I would have to modify the holder somehow, but I'm not sure how.
 
Just be aware that the Mamiya RB67 take perforated 70mm film. Unperforated film won't work. The film has to have the sprocket holes to engage with the teeth in the film back.

The suction bulb pulls the film down flat inside the film back.. Think sticking your camera out the window of a small engine plane.
The 70mm cartridges were made by Kodak. Some manufacturers put their names on them. See above ^^^ how I opened up a plastic carrier for my Epson 4990 refurb, maybe that will give you some ideas.

The Rollei 400s film from Germany will work in the RB67.
 
There is a Nikor 70mm reel on ebay now together with 2 standard tanks and 2 120 reels and one 35mm reel, the whole lot for 35 USD. I tried to buy, but the seller will not ship outside the US.
 
Nokton48 said:
Just be aware that the Mamiya RB67 take perforated 70mm film. Unperforated film won't work. The film has to have the sprocket holes to engage with the teeth in the film back.

The suction bulb pulls the film down flat inside the film back.. Think sticking your camera out the window of a small engine plane.
The 70mm cartridges were made by Kodak. Some manufacturers put their names on them. See above ^^^ how I opened up a plastic carrier for my Epson 4990 refurb, maybe that will give you some ideas.

The Rollei 400s film from Germany will work in the RB67.
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I'm just about ready. I bought two rolls of the Rollei film. I'll go the Mamiya RB67 route, so I'll need the back and suction bulb. I did buy a developing tank for 616--shouldn't this work? I won't shoot too much at one time so I'm thinking about the same amount of film a 120 roll would have. I need a bigger changing bag--I was playing around with the one I use and it's probably too small for loading the film cassettes--speaking of, could you go over how you load them? I do see how you modded the scanner tray--very nice! I have one of those for my V500--I don't need it since I use a Coolscan V for slides and 35mm. I haven't developed B&W for a while. The only chems I have is Rodinal. I'll see how this goes, then maybe switch to something else.

Thanks again for the info. Got me to thinking about a lot of stuff.
 
wjlapier said:
I'm just about ready. I bought two rolls of the Rollei film. I'll go the Mamiya RB67 route, so I'll need the back and suction bulb. I did buy a developing tank for 616--shouldn't this work? I won't shoot too much at one time so I'm thinking about the same amount of film a 120 roll would have. I need a bigger changing bag--I was playing around with the one I use and it's probably too small for loading the film cassettes--speaking of, could you go over how you load them? I do see how you modded the scanner tray--very nice! I have one of those for my V500--I don't need it since I use a Coolscan V for slides and 35mm. I haven't developed B&W for a while. The only chems I have is Rodinal. I'll see how this goes, then maybe switch to something else.
Thanks again for the info. Got me to thinking about a lot of stuff.
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Wjlapier,
Welcome to 70mm, hope it works out for you. Not for everybody but has definite advantages. The Rollei 400s 70mm film is very economical as you know. So far I have been using it with Rollei Supergrain Developer (I got from Freestyle, but I think B&H carries it too).

DSC05873 by Nokton48, on Flickr

With short lengths of 70mm film, you can use a Paterson, JOBO, or SS tanks and reels. Not hard to source. Full fifteen runs require the big 70mm tanks. Europanorama (Micheal) made this one from a standard 120 Nikor reel. Very clever. You could also make one out of a 220 reel and get a 24 shot 70mm reel that drops into a standard longer Nikor tank. Or use a Paterson reel and tank. Like Cal says, crazy is good. LOL

70mm Film Reel Adaption by Nokton48, on Flickr

I'll try to add to this thread (this weekend) info about 70mm cartridge loading. It is about as easy as loading 35mm bulk cartridges, just scaled up.

I will be interested to hear and hopefully see how you get along with Rollei 400s.
 
The 3063 JOBO tank arrived from Canada, it's quite a bit bigger in diameter than than NDT reels. Rather than chopping it up, I bit the bullet and bought this yesterday. Maybe I will use the 3063 for souping 20x24 B&W paper :)

The JOBO 3012 is very expensive and hard to source European photo product. This one was 150 Euros in Germany, which is about as cheap as I have ever seen them. They usually sell for a lot more!

JOBO 3012 70mm Drum 6x9 9x12 sheet by Nokton48, on Flickr
 
Kai-san said:
There is a Nikor 70mm reel on ebay now together with 2 standard tanks and 2 120 reels and one 35mm reel, the whole lot for 35 USD. I tried to buy, but the seller will not ship outside the US.
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Hey Kai-San,
Bummer he won't ship to you. But thanks for the heads up! 35 Bucks for a Nikor 70mm reel is acceptable. So I just bought this lot.

70mm Nikor reel by Nokton48, on Flickr

70mm reels are around but one must be patient.
 
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