Burlap Jacket
Established
I was at a camera show last weekend and noticed a couple of 90mm (possibly labeled as 9cm) f4 Elmars in thread mount. This is a black lens over brass, nice and compact. The seller noted it as being post-war, though note sure of the exact vintage. The price was around $100. Can anyone speak to the performance of this lens? I'm assuming it will be softish and possibly exhibit some glow? I had been thinking about getting a portrait lens for my M6 and this fits my budget right now.
Thanks in advance.
Thanks in advance.
Luddite Frank
Well-known
The Elmar 90 and Hektor 135 are good-performing lenses, even by "modern" standards.
If they are un-coated, they will tend more towards flare; same goes if there's haze or dust between the elements.
Looks carefully for scratches / rub-marks in the glass... if the glass is in decent shape, $75 - $125 is a fair range.
Haze / dust can be removed by a CLA ; scratches / coating injury are more or less permanent.
If you're looking for a user lens over a collectible, check-out KEH - they are very conservative in grading their mechandise - their "bargain" is most other folks "excellent".
You should find a good user lens between $50 & $100 from them.
The only other "draw-back" to the LTM Elmar 90 & Hektor 135 is that they are "slow" by modern standards: f: 4 / 4.5.
Also, you will have to get an LTM > M adapter... that can set you back $25 - $50,depending on where you find one.
If they are un-coated, they will tend more towards flare; same goes if there's haze or dust between the elements.
Looks carefully for scratches / rub-marks in the glass... if the glass is in decent shape, $75 - $125 is a fair range.
Haze / dust can be removed by a CLA ; scratches / coating injury are more or less permanent.
If you're looking for a user lens over a collectible, check-out KEH - they are very conservative in grading their mechandise - their "bargain" is most other folks "excellent".
You should find a good user lens between $50 & $100 from them.
The only other "draw-back" to the LTM Elmar 90 & Hektor 135 is that they are "slow" by modern standards: f: 4 / 4.5.
Also, you will have to get an LTM > M adapter... that can set you back $25 - $50,depending on where you find one.
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Burlap Jacket
Established
I have a 30's era Hektor 135 that unfortunately back focuses on my M6.
Can anyone post some sample portraits from the 90mm ltm (coated or uncoated)? Thanks.
Can anyone post some sample portraits from the 90mm ltm (coated or uncoated)? Thanks.
Mablo
Well-known
Flickr is your best friend when you want to check out photos taken with some particular lens or a camera:
see: http://www.flickr.com/photos/tags/leicaelmar90mmf40rigid/
see: http://www.flickr.com/photos/tags/leicaelmar90mmf40rigid/
snausages
Well-known
We had a nice thread about the LTM Elmar 90mm going a couple months ago...
http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=76220&highlight=elmar+90mm
http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=76220&highlight=elmar+90mm
Uwe_Nds
Chief Assistant Driver
The Elmar 90 and Hektor 135 are good-performing lenses, even by "modern" standards.
They are.

Cheers,
Uwe
raid
Dad Photographer
Beautiful.
Thank you, Uwe.
Thank you, Uwe.
snausages
Well-known
Uwe, what vintage is your Elmar? Is that a digital capture? Really looks different, to me, than the rendering from my (1948) Elmar!
ray*j*gun
Veteran
I just bought the one that was for sale here for $90.00...I'm waiting for it to be delivered...I'll post some pics from it when I get a roll through it. The one I bought per the seller is uncoated and from 1936. That's the main reason I bought it...I like the old timey look I get from the uncoated glass.
I was at a camera show last weekend and noticed a couple of 90mm (possibly labeled as 9cm) f4 Elmars in thread mount. This is a black lens over brass, nice and compact. The seller noted it as being post-war, though note sure of the exact vintage. The price was around $100. Can anyone speak to the performance of this lens? I'm assuming it will be softish and possibly exhibit some glow? I had been thinking about getting a portrait lens for my M6 and this fits my budget right now.
Thanks in advance.
Burlap Jacket
Established
Flickr is your best friend when you want to check out photos taken with some particular lens or a camera:
see: http://www.flickr.com/photos/tags/leicaelmar90mmf40rigid/
I did search the M-Mount group on Flickr and didn't find much at all in terms of portraits. (version I here and version II here). The link you posted above is listed under M Mount and not LTM on the group's main page, so I assumed it's a somewhat different lens.
Thanks to those who posted samples above.
Uwe_Nds
Chief Assistant Driver
Beautiful.
Thank you, Uwe.
Raid,
Thank you! I will tell Ania.
Uwe, what vintage is your Elmar? Is that a digital capture? Really looks different, to me, than the rendering from my (1948) Elmar!
That's a pre-war uncoated copy w/o UV/IR-filter on the M8 @ ISO 640.
I love the rendering.
Cheers,
Uwe
LeicaTom
Watch that step!
I`m looking for one still...... black paint f4/90 ~ ca. 1945 serial numbers #590xxx to #592xxx something, *coated* Minty in the tube or case, if someone has one in this range let me know 
Tom
Tom
JohnTF
Veteran
I have one in LTM and M, have used the first, 606148, on a Bessa R, the images were sharp, but a bit warm. Nice compact lenses, look right on the old bodies.
John
John
VictorM.
Well-known
charjohncarter
Veteran
Lenses are lenses, don't mess around with all that technical stuff. Buy the lens you like; for the purpose you want. I like my 90mm Elmar for close work. Here is a picture of it and an image from it:


Mr_Flibble
In Tabulas Argenteas Refero
Now I gotta post one too 
Taken with my 1937 90mm Elmar
Leica IIIa, Kodak BW400CN
Taken with my 1937 90mm Elmar

Leica IIIa, Kodak BW400CN
brainwood
Registered Film User
I have late coated example and it is indeed a fine lens.
Chris

Chris
Mr_Flibble
In Tabulas Argenteas Refero
Oooh! An SE5a! Very nice. Shame the DOF tells me it's an RC-model though 
raid
Dad Photographer
This photo was taken with a war time Elmar 9cm 4.0 black with the aperture settings 6,9 ... etc. It seems to be coated though.

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brainwood
Registered Film User
Mr flibble
Thanks for your comments I've been enjoying your re-enactment shots on the 'other' Elmar thread.
The aircraft is probably even smaller than you think. Its less than 2' across , powered by a rubber band and free flight
Here's another one also shot using an Elmar
Big boys with small toys
Chris
Thanks for your comments I've been enjoying your re-enactment shots on the 'other' Elmar thread.
The aircraft is probably even smaller than you think. Its less than 2' across , powered by a rubber band and free flight
Here's another one also shot using an Elmar

Big boys with small toys
Chris
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