A lengthy diatribe

Godfrey said:
.... But you can see beyond the frame with any camera ... just open both eyes.
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Darlings,

In photojourno this is most important. Lots of things are too far outside of the frame for even brightline finders.

Ciao,
Mme. O.
 
Pál_K said:
That is a professional secret!
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:)

One professional I knew is known as GW here. He is known to often take pictures by bringing his camera with bright lines VF attached to it for just the split of the second.
Another professional whom I knew and was lucky to met is using 24mm Leica lens on M10 without any frame lines or VF. He is RFF member. I have seen his pictures taken with this lens as described. Well framed.
 
Another point to keeping both eyes open - there can be things happening there that can damage or destroy your camera or you. Just ask street shooters, sports photographers, or people who photograph emergency scenes. With practice, you can even do it with a 70-200 zoom.
 
gavinlg said:
I strongly prefer an optical frameline style camera. For this reason, my cameras of preference are the Leica M/fuji x100/Fuji X-pro series.

Being able to see outside the framelines is one of the reasons - the other is the focussing patch style focussing is quicker and easier for me than SLR or autofocus style shooting, and the uninterrupted view (uninterrupted by a mirror or blackout or exposure). I feel it keeps me 'in the moment' and without distraction.
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This.... & it sure helps if you're left-eye dominant as I am. The only place i get to use both eyes behind the camera, is with a Rolleiflex or a view camera
 
Deardorff38 said:
Thanks KF, I'd never seen that.
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I had it. Huss have it. I think they went on sale originally with Zorki becoming more available. Lots of those cameras are in mint condition. They might require some CLA, but no more than regular folder. If all parts are in tact.
My first one was mint because it was no RF patch straight from the factory.
So, I got second as is for parts and made one working from two.
 
There's a lot to be said about camera ergonomics here, probably worthy of a new thread. My Leica M2, Rollei 35 and (no longer working) Fuji Texas Leica all have the viewfinder eyepiece right on the edge of the camera, so it's far easier to look straight ahead, and open both eyes while doing it (especially if your nose is larger). Many other cameras, and most SLRs, have the viewfinder in the middle, it makes for awkward head and eye twists to look through as your head is not facing the subject. Probably contributes to eye fatigue too.
 
Instant frame line in SLR

Instant frame line in SLR

Darling Bill,

Another trick. I am a Nikon woman. Yes, I like the Fuji (hah! Like? I love the Fuji...) but I still work a lot with Nikon in the full frame. My husband loaned me a D750 and here is the trick. He showed me how to put crop lens on the D750 and the camera knows. So it makes a cropping frame line in the finder and leaves the rest visible. Magic! More like darkline because the line is black but still you may see outside the frame. Many focal lengths do not vignette too much.

Ciao,
Mme. O.
 
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