A possible scam ?

in the case of Nigeria the grinding poverty and unbelievable unemployment figures leave few avenues to survive. in the city of Lagos, with a population hovering around 15 million, it is thought that more than 80% of the population lives in a slum and most families survive on less than a dollar a day. to claim that the bulk of Nigerians prefer scamming over "honest work" is to admit ignorance in the matter. there is very, very little "honest work".

the bulk of Nigerians are brilliant folks facing an almost impossible situation. a few turn to crime to survive. i question whether this makes them "bad" versus "desperate"?
 
emraphoto said:
... the bulk of Nigerians are brilliant folks facing an almost impossible situation. a few turn to crime to survive. i question whether this makes them "bad" versus "desperate"?
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I say the Nigerians aren't all bad, but the criminals are. Are you saying even the criminals have an excuse so aren't? As this century progresses, we will see more 3rd world and poor in our country perpetrating crimes just to survive. But I hate to think degenerating to the point of the smartest criminals and most powerful warlords winning over those that do have advantage is somehow righteous. But back to the OhBoy/email scammers. If I was Nigerian trying to buy something on FeeBay, I would follow the rules very closely and try to do eveything to be a good net citizen. When someone doesn't want to do this, flags should go up. When someone overseas doesn't want to do this, it's a scam to be ignored.
 
if you re-read my post it has nothing to do with who is "bad". i am saying that we aren't in the position to judge. the situation there is about as bad as you could imagine and if i had to feed myself and a few children the luxury of being a "good citizen" might not be such an easy choice.

the real criminals in Nigeria, who have the luxury of choice, aren't even Nigerian.

these folks don't "read and follow the rules" because the bulk of them haven't even been to school.
 
Well, guys to get the thread back on track - after reporting Ebay on the case 2 days back they got back to me yesterday informing that they investigate deeply the case and albeit not being able to report me detailed information on the buyer (due to privacy policy), they do update that the buyer is no longer a registered Ebay user.
Just checked the auction link - he indeed appears to be as non-registered one.

I suspect however that doesn't preclude me to get charged by Ebay for the "sale"...:-(
 
I live in Africa and even I think this one is a scam. He's phished someone's paypal password and will fraudulently use their account to pay. When the transcation is reversed you won't have any recourse as the goods weren't shipped to the registered paypal address. Since the shipping address is in Nigeria there is no possibility of getting local law enforcement to act. The extra $100 is bait.

Damn, missed my chance to pick up an M3 cheap at the flea market 🙂

Andrew
 
This is a total scam. Not only that, but be careful. These frauds are often originated from Nigerian gangs with international reach. If he knows where you live some of his pals might be paying you a visit, so don't give out ANY personal information and cut off all contact.

Also, I'd not expect too much from eBay when it comes to getting your fees back (etc.). eBay is only a notch above the Nigerian gangsters when it comes to business ethics.

I'd advise you to sell the camera here - you can trust us.
 
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David Murphy said:
This is a total scam. Not only that, but be careful. These frauds are often originated from Nigerian gangs with international reach. If he knows where you live some of his pals might be paying you a visit, so don't give out ANY personal information and cut off all contact.

Also, I'd not expect too much from eBay when it comes to getting your fees back (etc.). eBay is only a notch above the Nigerian gangsters when it comes to business ethics.

I'd advise you to sell the camera here - you can trust us.
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Another urban legend. Do you really think gangs will be after you for a camera worth a few hundreds dollars sold on Ebay? Gangs are after more lucrative businesses...
 
David Murphy said:
This is a total scam. Not only that, but be careful. These frauds are often originated from Nigerian gangs with international reach.
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Being murdered by a Internet scammer is about as likely as having your car clubbed by the disgruntled wife of a famous golf pro, in that both are things that so far have happened only once on this planet.

There was one reported case where some fool travelled to Nigeria to get back his advanced cash, and ended up murdered by the defrauder - but that does not reflect the mega criminality of the scammers but rather that even a cornered rabbit may turn on you...

These frauds usually originate with the many young, educated Nigerians left more or less home- and jobless on the streets of Lagos after finishing college - they are no more or less dangerous than any fraudulent nerd from the US or Europe, it is just the social situation in Nigeria which makes even bizarre forms of theft with a minimal success rate an attractive form of self-employment.
 
sevo said:
Being murdered by a Internet scammer is about as likely as having your car clubbed by the disgruntled wife of a famous golf pro, in that both are things that so far have happened only once on this planet.

There was one reported case where some fool travelled to Nigeria to get back his advanced cash, and ended up murdered by the defrauder - but that does not reflect the mega criminality of the scammers but rather that even a cornered rabbit may turn on you...

These frauds usually originate with the many young, educated Nigerians left more or less home- and jobless on the streets of Lagos after finishing college - they are no more or less dangerous than any fraudulent nerd from the US or Europe, it is just the social situation in Nigeria which makes even bizarre forms of theft with a minimal success rate an attractive form of self-employment.
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I had someone threaten me once (in person) over the supposed non-delivery of an $8 plastic camera which was won in an auction I ran. He was the thug boyfriend of some nutty girl that won the auction. She was so tuned out that she could not provide a usable delivery address. Total low-life's of course, but LA is full of them.
 
Scamo! Stay away from any weird/unorthodox sellers or terms.

My email is littered with messages from Nigeria about lottery winnings, inheritances, offers to partner in a business, etc. I believe Nigeria is very lax when it comes to internet fraud. That is why so much scam emails come out of that country.
 
lol... right after posting the previous message; look what I found in my inbox:



FROM OFFICE OF THE WESTERN UNION MONEY TRANSFER.
Plot1261 Hopewell Street Victoria Island
Ploy 730,LAGOS,NIGERIA
Phone Number : +234-802 39 22 816
WEB SITE.www.westernunion.com
http://site.www.westernunion.com/
E-mail : westernunionpaycent1@gala.net


ATTN:


PLEASE YOU ARE ADVISE TO GO THROUGH THIS EMAIL CAREFULLY AND MAKE SURE YOU UNDERSTAND AND READY TO COMPLY WITH THE CONTENTS BEFORE REPLYING TO IT. WEARE INSTRUCTED BY MRS BETTIE WITCHER TO TRANSFER YOUR FUND WHICH YOU LOST TO NIGERIAN SCAMMERS WITH THIER AFFILIATED LOTTERY OFFICE HERE IN WESTAFRICA TO YOU VIA OUR SERVICE (WESTERN UNION MONEY TRANSFER) SO YOU WILL BE RECIEVING $7,000.00 USD DAILY UNTILL IT COMPLETE THE CORRECT AMOUNT ($100,000.00).


MEANWHILE YOU ARE REQUIRED TO SEND US THE TRANSFER CHARGES WHICH is $150 USD FOR THE $7,000.00 THAT WE HAVE ALREADY REMIT TO YOUR NAME BECAUSE WITH OUT THAT YOU CAN NOT PICK THE MONEY FOR IT IS ON HOLD.


NOTE: THE REASON WHY WE NEED YOU TO SEND US THE $150 USD IS THAT WE TRIED TO DEDUCT THE TRANSFER FEE OUT FROM YOUR FUND BUT THE MINISTER ADMINISTRATOR TRUST FUND OF (LAGOS,NIGERIA) TOLD US THAT NO ONE HAS ACCESS OVER YOUR FUND AS IT HAVE BEEN SIGNED AND STAMPED THAT NO MONEY SHOULD BE DEDUCTED UNTIL IT GETS TO


YOU TO AVOID ANY MISUNDERSTANDING AND FOR SECURITY REASONS. NO ONE IS TO BE TRUSTED WHEN IT COMES TO MONEY, NOT EVEN YOUR MOTHER OR YOUR FATHER.


HERE IS THE INFORMATION OF THE ONE WE SENT TODAY TO YOU BUT IT WILL REMAIN ON HOLD UNTIL YOU SEND US OUR TRANSFER CHARGES OF $150 BEFORE WE CANRELEASE IT TO YOU SO YOU CAN TRACK IT WITH OUR WEB SITE.www.westernunion.com TO CONFIRM IF TRULY YOUR MONEY IS AVAILABLE OR NOT.


Money Transfer Control Number (MTCN): 9720910370
SENDERS NAME ......... Ekwegbeli Chukwunonso
Question---------------What Colour
Test Answer-----------------Green
Amount------------------------$7,000.00


TRACK THE MTCN NUMBER WITH OUR WEBSITE BELOW:

http://www.westernunion.com/info/selectCountry.asp or www.westernunion.com


FINALLY UPDATE US WITH THE $150 USD TO ENABLE US PROCEED ON YOUR PAYMENT IMMEDIATELY, BELOW IS THE INFORMATION YOU WILL USE TO REMIT THE $150 USD VIA WESTERN UNION MONEY TRANSFER BEEN OUR TRANSFERING CHARGE FOR YOUR $100,000.00 USD.


1.RECEIVER NAME:........ DAVID HILARY
2.CITY:..................... LAGOS
3.COUNTRY :.............................NIGERIA.
4.TEST QUESTION:............WHO MADE YOU
5.TEST ANSWER:..............GOD
6.AMOUNT:.........................$150 USD

note:
Pls reply to this email with the required information
westernunionpaycent1@gala.net


DO GET BACK TO THIS OFFICE WITH THE INFORMATION BELOW AS EVIDENCE OF PAYMENT

1.SENDERS NAME:
2.SENDERS ADDRESS:
3.MTCN#:
4.MOBILE/DIRECT TELEPHONE NUMBER:

YOUR URGENT RESPOND IS HIGHLY NEEDED.

MERRY CHRISTMAS AND HAPPY NEW YEAR.

Pls reply to this email with the required information westernunionpaycent1@gala.net
REGARDS
MR ROBERT TAILOR
OPERATION MANAGER
WESTERN UNION (LAGOS,NIGERIA)
E-mail : westernunionpaycent1@gala.net
 
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