Ororaro
Well-known
sitemistic said:It's a historical record. It works as that. But I'm sure even Capa wished that it had been sharp.
Capa's photos we're never very sharp. And this developing error is surely a blown out of proportion excuse. In my 15 years of developing I've never been able to do this to a film, and I've tried. I tried the freezing-then-into-the-oven thing and still didn't get a satisfying reticulation. And bresides, it looks more like camera movement then anything else.
Anyhow, to get back on topic: maybe you don't like them except for their historic nature, but the general feeling and tremendous impact they yield pushed Steven Spielberg to base the entire Private Ryan intro on Capa's pictures-the blurry ones. I'm not sure what you and your editors have to say on this.
Sitemistic, the thing with you is you put a lot of emphasis on your PJ experience but we've never seen a single picture from you. And by the way, I'm not sure how the PJ title gives anyone extra credibility. I have my fair share of work published and my fair share of prizes and recognitions. I never really thought I had to underline these facts or create a website around it so I would be taken seriously.
You surely have your own taste but that's only that- your own taste.
Ororaro
Well-known
sitemistic said:NB23, I've never suggested my being a PJ gives any credibility to what I say. Yes, I write from my experience. I've always been a PJ, what other experience would you expect me to write from?
Do you think an ad hominem attack on my experience as a PJ is somehow related to the part of the post you quoted? We're all pixels on a screen.
hmm, I'm not into political correctness and I usually try to get out of my way not to fall into it and into cheeziness. Just the way I am. I also usually agree with your posts and sincerity, and when I don't agree, it's fine too. I'm not saying Im right most of the time either. so please don"t view what I said as an attack but more as a way to debate and talk. And still, I'd like to see some of your work from time to time. Isn't it the whole point, after all?
Roger Hicks
Veteran
This is not for an instant an attack on Sitemistic, whose experience, knowledge, etc., I respect highly, but I have to agree: photojournalism isn't everything.
There is a great tradition of photojournalist columnists in one of the magazines I write for, Amateur Photographer in the UK; but I've never understood why amateurs should have quite such a high regard for that particular branch of photography. Then again, Fine Art (very much with capitals) tends to be over-revered too, at least in some journals.
Cheers,
R.
There is a great tradition of photojournalist columnists in one of the magazines I write for, Amateur Photographer in the UK; but I've never understood why amateurs should have quite such a high regard for that particular branch of photography. Then again, Fine Art (very much with capitals) tends to be over-revered too, at least in some journals.
Cheers,
R.
d_ross
Registered User
Sitemistic
I'm not under 30, but I know plenty of peope who are, and surprisingly they are concerned with much more than "lifestyle" and they do appreciate the aesthetics of photography above and beyond the fill flashed bright and crisp images you suggest as the only thing for newspapers!
Perhaps they (under 30's) don't read newspapers much any more because of the industries insistance on technical perfection over aesthetic!
I'm not under 30, but I know plenty of peope who are, and surprisingly they are concerned with much more than "lifestyle" and they do appreciate the aesthetics of photography above and beyond the fill flashed bright and crisp images you suggest as the only thing for newspapers!
Perhaps they (under 30's) don't read newspapers much any more because of the industries insistance on technical perfection over aesthetic!
Roger Hicks
Veteran
The same nasty, cynical thought had occurred to me -- but at 58 next birthday, maybe I'm not qualified to judge...d_ross said:Sitemistic
I'm not under 30, but I know plenty of peope who are, and surprisingly they are concerned with much more than "lifestyle" and they do appreciate the aesthetics of photography above and beyond the fill flashed bright and crisp images you suggest as the only thing for newspapers!
Perhaps they (under 30's) don't read newspapers much any more because of the industries insistance on technical perfection over aesthetic!
Cheers,
R.
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