kb244
Well-known
Kind of like some of our favorite "Thrifty" rangefinders that used to be considered an undiscovered gem or steal. Nifty, I wonder if that also works for the newer black Summitars (ie: the 6-bladed one I mentioned).
lundrog
Established
I would likely recommend the Summitar if you like a Leica look.
I have examples of different options in that focal range for rangefinder.
summitar 10 blade. http://photography.rogerlund.net/Gallery/Lenses/MF/Ernst-Leitz-Wetzlar-Summitar-5
Jupiter 8 - 50mm F2.0 LTM
http://photography.rogerlund.net/Gallery/Lenses/MF/Jupiter-8-50mm-F20/
Canon Serenar F2 LTM ( Fairly Rare )
http://photography.rogerlund.net/Gallery/Lenses/MF/Unprocessed-Canon-Serenar-F2-5
Canon Serenar 50mm f19 ( copy has some lens cleaning marks )
http://photography.rogerlund.net/Gallery/Lenses/MF/Canon-serenar-50mm-f19
Helios-44-0 58mm F2 Silver
http://photography.rogerlund.net/Gallery/Lenses/MF/Helios-44-58mm-F2-Silverf
CZ Jena Biotar 58mm F2 FX Mount.
http://photography.rogerlund.net/Gallery/Lenses/MF/CZ-Jena-Biotar-58mm-F2
Schneiderkreuznach xenon 50 f2 ( copy has rear element damaged so flairs and makes funky bokeh)
http://photography.rogerlund.net/Gallery/Lenses/MF/Schneiderkreuznach-xenon-50f2
I have a canon 50mm 1.8 but I guess I need to use it... ha pm me if you want examples.
What would I recommend? the Leica of course, then the Biotar, it's quite a lens for the cost.
I have examples of different options in that focal range for rangefinder.
summitar 10 blade. http://photography.rogerlund.net/Gallery/Lenses/MF/Ernst-Leitz-Wetzlar-Summitar-5
Jupiter 8 - 50mm F2.0 LTM
http://photography.rogerlund.net/Gallery/Lenses/MF/Jupiter-8-50mm-F20/
Canon Serenar F2 LTM ( Fairly Rare )
http://photography.rogerlund.net/Gallery/Lenses/MF/Unprocessed-Canon-Serenar-F2-5
Canon Serenar 50mm f19 ( copy has some lens cleaning marks )
http://photography.rogerlund.net/Gallery/Lenses/MF/Canon-serenar-50mm-f19
Helios-44-0 58mm F2 Silver
http://photography.rogerlund.net/Gallery/Lenses/MF/Helios-44-58mm-F2-Silverf
CZ Jena Biotar 58mm F2 FX Mount.
http://photography.rogerlund.net/Gallery/Lenses/MF/CZ-Jena-Biotar-58mm-F2
Schneiderkreuznach xenon 50 f2 ( copy has rear element damaged so flairs and makes funky bokeh)
http://photography.rogerlund.net/Gallery/Lenses/MF/Schneiderkreuznach-xenon-50f2
I have a canon 50mm 1.8 but I guess I need to use it... ha pm me if you want examples.
What would I recommend? the Leica of course, then the Biotar, it's quite a lens for the cost.
kb244
Well-known
That Helios-44 has an interesting look to it. I'm guessing -0 is it's series (ie: 1st version). Seeing mostly the black 44-2 for sale.
danielsterno
making soup from mud
I bought an almost mint J3 1.5 50mm here on RFF for $400. I use on my M5/M6 and I love the rendering in both B&W and color while I am not a Jupiter expert I would buy it all over again. I also have a Rigid 50mm summicron that creates has a unique character to images specially B&W..... all of the above in the thread are nice considerable options....
Daryl J.
Well-known
Is that hazing/etching issue with the Canon F1.8 actually common? That it is commonly talked *about* does not necessarily mean it's truly a common problem.
The local vintage camera store on N Lombard St had one and sold it almost immediately so I never got to check it out. I'd just like to have a Planar 50 in ltm to compliment my Sonnar (Nikkor Kogaku) and Summitar.
The local vintage camera store on N Lombard St had one and sold it almost immediately so I never got to check it out. I'd just like to have a Planar 50 in ltm to compliment my Sonnar (Nikkor Kogaku) and Summitar.
kb244
Well-known
Well least 'common' in terms of the ones I'm seeing pop up, especially from the Japanese ebay sellers. Almost all of them exhibit some sort of haze. Maybe might just be the current 'lot' of them being sold.
raid
Dad Photographer
$3000? ........................ ..........................
kb244
Well-known
raid
Dad Photographer
The Canon 50/1.4 is an excellent lens overall, and its cost is rather low. The Summitar is very good for B&W photography. If you have the money, and if you want Leica equipment, get the Lux. I don't have the 50mm Lux.
Daryl J.
Well-known
Is there a Summilux that goes on a Canon 7 the OP is using?
raid
Dad Photographer
I don't think so. It was simply a comment by me on Canon and Leica lenses overall.
kb244
Well-known
Was wondering if they were made in the LTM mount.
But at over a grand, I'd get my E-M5 Mk 1 replaced before that.
Though I will be using the lens mostly for B&W shooting with my 7 (or Fed-2A if I have two different films loaded at once), but it would be nice adapting it once in awhile to my digital.
Kind of like how my Canon 35/2.8 Serenar gives me this on my digital (100% crop, not resized).
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zauhar
Veteran
I have both lenses, and if I had to keep one it would be the Canon 50/1.4
That said, while I think that most people are blathering when they claim to make fine distinctions between the 'drawing' of one lens and another, in the case of the summitar it really does have a unique look, especially out-of- focus (I call it 'electric bokeh')
Randy
That said, while I think that most people are blathering when they claim to make fine distinctions between the 'drawing' of one lens and another, in the case of the summitar it really does have a unique look, especially out-of- focus (I call it 'electric bokeh')
Randy
lundrog
Established
kb244
Well-known
And as I thought the only ones available are from Russian/Ukraine sellers.
lundrog
Established
kb244
Well-known
Did they ever make that in LTM/L39? Thought that was an exakta lens (or M42).
FrankS
Registered User
Former RFF member Brian Sweeney was very skilled at adjusting the shims of 50mm Jupiter lenses. Wonder if he still does this. I haven't been in touch with him in years.
kb244
Well-known
Seems I can get a Jupiter-8 that's been CLA'd domestically, but only if I want to get it along with a Canon P for 200 total ... which might not be a bad idea ... I'm assuming if it's been CLA'd then it's been adjusted/aligned in spec with LTM/L39 if it's going to be on a Canon P.
02Pilot
Malcontent
Isn't the Helios-44 an M39 Zenit mount? If so, it won't focus correctly on an LTM body.
The Jupiter-8 is a fine lens, but very different from the choices the OP mentioned initially. All three of the lenses mentioned in the first post are double Gauss designs, whereas the Jupiter is a Sonnar type. I like mine, but the ergonomics are not ideal, particularly the fact that the aperture rotates in the opposite direction to Leica and Canon LTM lenses.
The Jupiter-8 is a fine lens, but very different from the choices the OP mentioned initially. All three of the lenses mentioned in the first post are double Gauss designs, whereas the Jupiter is a Sonnar type. I like mine, but the ergonomics are not ideal, particularly the fact that the aperture rotates in the opposite direction to Leica and Canon LTM lenses.