A7r with RF glass
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kxl
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Have you seen any A7R images with the ZM Sonnar and ZM Planar? I would think both of these lenses would perform well. I am especially interested with what the Z7R can do with the Sonnar wide open at f1.5.
uhoh7
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I think you can count on good to unreal performance with the zm 50s
the a7r seems to love the cv 35/1.4:
http://flic.kr/p/hDceoh
uhoh7
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f16sunshine
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Charlie
I look forward to the arrival of your camera mostly for the images. 😀
The samples available so far are for the most part such poor images It's really hard to get much evaluative value looking at them!
I look forward to the arrival of your camera mostly for the images. 😀
The samples available so far are for the most part such poor images It's really hard to get much evaluative value looking at them!
uhoh7
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LOL, what u don't like that cute pooch up there?
I'm not a pulitzer level shooter, or anything more than barely competent on a good day--so careful what you wish for 😉
uhoh7
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hausen
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Like both of those images, especially the hand rail. Like to see that in B&W. Thinking good thoughts my A7r arrives this Friday!
rbelyell
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biogon, biogon, oh anyone got a biogon!
kxl
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The more of these images I see, the more I am tempted by the A7R.
Most of my M-mount lenses are 35 and longer. The only two that are wider are the ZM 18 and the ZM 25. It would be great if those two are at least in the "usable" category.
I also plan to mount the 105/2.5 AIS and 85/1.4 AI lenses on an A7R. By all accounts, these should perform well.
Most of my M-mount lenses are 35 and longer. The only two that are wider are the ZM 18 and the ZM 25. It would be great if those two are at least in the "usable" category.
I also plan to mount the 105/2.5 AIS and 85/1.4 AI lenses on an A7R. By all accounts, these should perform well.
hunz
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I think I'm going to wait for Fuji to come out with their FF version..
Maybe quieter shutter, organic sensor with better DR, and no hump!
Maybe quieter shutter, organic sensor with better DR, and no hump!
uhoh7
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zm 18 and zm25 should be usable on both A7s, with a combo of in camera correction via sony lens profile app and PP. You may need to stop down more than you might on a M240, however there seems to be no sharpness lost at f/16 or 22 with the A7s.
your 105 and 85 should produce images of a quality never before seen on any camera with that glass.
kxl
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willie_901
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Apparently the A7s are so good the laws of physics no longer apply. It seems the A7s are the first devices in history that contradict quantum mechanics. SONY's engineers deserve a Nobel Prize as scientists have been trying to find experimental evidence that is inconsistent with QM for about 90 years.
loneranger
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uhoh7
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hence the word "seems".
I have looked at a lot of infinity shots with my 5n, since I'm in the backcountry quite a bit.
F/16 I don't really go there often because I start to see the sharpness come down.
I've been peeping those sort of shots with the A7r of a cityscape at about 1 mile distance. Fine details are very evident even at f/22.
Like I have never seen before.
Obviously I'm under all sorts of limits: apple cinema rez, not to mention what's going on in the camera and PP.
I will have the camera and see for myself, and if it's mistaken, that stopped down the images really aren't so sharp, I'm not going to hide it.
Images that seem very sharp at f/16 don't have to make new laws of physics, they only need to give detail to my eye. 36mp with a good processor might account for it. Or the samples had dirty enough air that f/5.6 was not as sharp as it should be.
The point is the A7r can produce a sharper image at f/16 than I've seen before, enough so that I'd never guess the aperture was set there. That's my current impression. Not afraid to change it. 🙂
uhoh7
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Update on the shutter noise:
From FM
lostinjapan wrote:
I compared the shutter last night on the A7r, the 5D3, the (soon to be sold) 5D2 and the x-pro1. The XP1 was by far the quietest off the four, the Canons were the loudest with the Sony in the middle. It certainly sounds much different from either the Canons or the Fuji, but it is certainly not that loud. If you want quiet get a Fuji X-100s, but the A7r is not bad at all.
Ryan
From FM
lostinjapan wrote:
I compared the shutter last night on the A7r, the 5D3, the (soon to be sold) 5D2 and the x-pro1. The XP1 was by far the quietest off the four, the Canons were the loudest with the Sony in the middle. It certainly sounds much different from either the Canons or the Fuji, but it is certainly not that loud. If you want quiet get a Fuji X-100s, but the A7r is not bad at all.
Ryan
Lss
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In Sony land, make that RX1.
uhoh7
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yeah, that thing is amazing, in so many ways, wish i had one 🙂
well Huff is absolutely raving about A7s and M glass in his comments here:
http://www.stevehuffphoto.com/2013/...-the-house-review-in-progress/#comment-266071
"The M-E is larger than the Sony and an RF, no live view, etc. Different camera. The Sony..IQ wise..can beat any Leica camera, period. BUT it can not match them for build, feel, use, wide angle M mount use, etc. Nothing can."
"The A7 and A7r seem to be made for M lenses 🙂 The size and feel is perfect and the camera is easy to focus (at least for me) when using them. Small, solid and manual."
yo says:
November 18, 2013 at 10:31 am
I’m really interested also…because for now there isn’t any UWA lens in RF range that can be used on A7/A7R without any default (vignetting, colors smears etc.) …
That’s a problem for landscape and architecture…as for achitecture I would like to know if lack of AA filter on A7R will cause moiré artefacts, could you test that on repetitive paterns please ..?
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Steve Huff says:
November 18, 2013 at 10:51 am
Sure there is..the WATE works well and that gives you 16-18-21 focal lengths. There are also other UWA lenses that work. Not all, but some do.
"Already tested and shown the 15 here a few weeks ago. The 21 1.8 from Voigtlander is great the 21 2.8 from Zeiss is good on the A7. The Zeiss Biogon f/2 I have shown MANY samples from and it is amazingly good. Just look at past write ups here…"
Now before any goes off and trashes Huff, just know Gandy has a lot of respect for him, and I've come around on the subject.
At this point he has a lot of M experience, and more A7 with RF experience than anyone on the planet.
Lss
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He has access to stuff, but he fails to show and tell anything useful. See the link you posted for reference.
