willie_901
Veteran
Adobe just announced a $9.99/mo Creative Cloud subscription for photographers. This price is good until 12/31. The offer opens on 9/17.
You must be a registered Photoshop CS3 or above owner. You only get Photoshop CC, Lightroom 5, Behance ProSite access and 20GB of storage space.
Supposedly, this price is good indefinitely or until your CC account lapses.
Now I am not in anyway promoting, approving or disapproving this new option for photographers to use Adobe products.
I think it's interesting for a few reasons. Perhaps PS 6 standalone new sales and upgrades were way below Adobe's internal forecast. Or the number of CC new adapters was low. It's also possible LR 5 new and upgrade sales suffered because photographers decided to abandon Adobe sooner rather than later. And, just think how much bad PR Adobe could have avoided if they introduced this option on day one?
Since switching from LR and PSE to the CC photography package would be a business expense, and the price is attractive, I may buy an old licensable CS 3 DVD and join. I really haven't decided. I am not of a frame of mind to spend the time, money and energy to completely abandon the LR ecosystem so moving to other platforms never was an option for me. Before this option, I refused to lease software I would never use (the non-still photography CC apps). Also, I wonder how Adobe will shuffle things around to get me to pay more than $9.95/mo in two to three years own the road.
The fundamental disadvantages of CC vigorously described here and elsewhere have not changed. I doubt Adobe has learned anything either. Otherwise this would have happened from day one, or shortly after it became obvious Adobe alienated a large portion of their photographer customer base with their take it or leave it (and get left behind) marketing strategy.
You must be a registered Photoshop CS3 or above owner. You only get Photoshop CC, Lightroom 5, Behance ProSite access and 20GB of storage space.
Supposedly, this price is good indefinitely or until your CC account lapses.
Now I am not in anyway promoting, approving or disapproving this new option for photographers to use Adobe products.
I think it's interesting for a few reasons. Perhaps PS 6 standalone new sales and upgrades were way below Adobe's internal forecast. Or the number of CC new adapters was low. It's also possible LR 5 new and upgrade sales suffered because photographers decided to abandon Adobe sooner rather than later. And, just think how much bad PR Adobe could have avoided if they introduced this option on day one?
Since switching from LR and PSE to the CC photography package would be a business expense, and the price is attractive, I may buy an old licensable CS 3 DVD and join. I really haven't decided. I am not of a frame of mind to spend the time, money and energy to completely abandon the LR ecosystem so moving to other platforms never was an option for me. Before this option, I refused to lease software I would never use (the non-still photography CC apps). Also, I wonder how Adobe will shuffle things around to get me to pay more than $9.95/mo in two to three years own the road.
The fundamental disadvantages of CC vigorously described here and elsewhere have not changed. I doubt Adobe has learned anything either. Otherwise this would have happened from day one, or shortly after it became obvious Adobe alienated a large portion of their photographer customer base with their take it or leave it (and get left behind) marketing strategy.
Keith
The best camera is one that still works!
Ahh ... a new type of software patch! 
Al Patterson
Ferroequinologist
Yep, capitalism works. Not enough takes at your current price, so down it goes. Probably should have been at this price from the get go....
ChrisN
Striving
And what price do they offer to folks in the antipodes?
Keith
The best camera is one that still works!
And what price do they offer to folks in the antipodes?
Good point! LOL
Cloud computing. Cloud-cooc-oo-land computing. Digital is ephermal, my friends. Why not make it even more ephermal? A few years ago a firm was selling gold coins and bars. And for a very modest fee you could store your gold purchased from them in their super vault. Guess what? The company went south, your gold went south and some sneaky folks are sleeping on a gold trmmed cloud. And don't even get me started on Photosnot.
cosmonaut
Well-known
If Adobe goes 100% CC I'll go 100% somewhere else. I use LR5 for 90+% of my editing. I only use CS for cloning mostly.
I understand their point. It's hard to cough up enough money for a full retail copy of CS6 so this way they think they can get more people on board and keep them there.
I would hate to go somewhere else as I have been a loyal Adobe customer for years.
I understand their point. It's hard to cough up enough money for a full retail copy of CS6 so this way they think they can get more people on board and keep them there.
I would hate to go somewhere else as I have been a loyal Adobe customer for years.
raid
Dad Photographer
I discovered today that the Adobe Professional version also includes CS5. I have it on my office computer! The cost of the package (forever) is $96.
Why would you pay each month?
Why would you pay each month?
Timmyjoe
Veteran
Started using Photoshop with version 4 back in the 1990's. Use Photoshop CS3 daily and coughed up the bucks for CS6 for "future proofing". That's it for me and Adobe.
I think they've shot themselves in the foot with this cloud thing.
Best,
-Tim
I think they've shot themselves in the foot with this cloud thing.
Best,
-Tim
SausalitoDog
Well-known
For anyone with an older version of photoshop, this is a really good deal.
There has been a lot to like in the last few upgrades.
While I hate the idea of paying rent, I still think this is a good buy since it includes LR as well as PS.
Their switch to subscription had me balking and feverishly trying to get some level of expertise with Capture One 7 to avoid the forced monthly charge. I can't really think CO7 can replace Ps yet...but it's 90% there. This is a relatively bearable monthly fee to keep me using both apps for a while. If CO7 improves enough, I can leave adobe in a heartbeat...
There has been a lot to like in the last few upgrades.
While I hate the idea of paying rent, I still think this is a good buy since it includes LR as well as PS.
Their switch to subscription had me balking and feverishly trying to get some level of expertise with Capture One 7 to avoid the forced monthly charge. I can't really think CO7 can replace Ps yet...but it's 90% there. This is a relatively bearable monthly fee to keep me using both apps for a while. If CO7 improves enough, I can leave adobe in a heartbeat...
lynnb
Veteran
I wonder whether Adobe modelled how much they could make if they had dropped the price of Photoshop years ago. It's such a good product that, priced more reasonably, it might have generated profits far in excess of what they have made. Instead they sold Photoshop Lite a.k.a Elements, which had fewer features.
I suspect they could have had a market monopoly if they had lowered their prices.
Sony made the same mistake with Beta, and Apple with the Mac. Great products, both.
I suspect they could have had a market monopoly if they had lowered their prices.
Sony made the same mistake with Beta, and Apple with the Mac. Great products, both.
ChipMcD
Well-known
When I just checked, the price seemed to be $19.99 per month, if you sign up for a year. Is there a secret password or something?
dogberryjr
[Pithy phrase]
When I just checked, the price seemed to be $19.99 per month, if you sign up for a year. Is there a secret password or something?
OP says the price is effective on/after 9/17.
tjh
Well-known
Here is the Adobe page:
http://blogs.adobe.com/creativelayer/introducing-the-photoshop-photography-program/
http://blogs.adobe.com/creativelayer/introducing-the-photoshop-photography-program/
redisburning
Well-known
I wonder whether Adobe modelled how much they could make if they had dropped the price of Photoshop years ago.
you better believe it.
Adobe has some of the best mathematicians and forecasters in the world on their staff.
FrozenInTime
Well-known
Although the thought of resisting is tempting, at some point OS upgrades ( Mavericks and Win 8.1 will be interesting tests ) are going to break the current standalone versions of PS.
I don't see Adobe issuing patches.
So unless a sub $100 alternative takes the world by storm, I will reluctantly sign up on 12/31.
I don't see Adobe issuing patches.
So unless a sub $100 alternative takes the world by storm, I will reluctantly sign up on 12/31.
tjh
Well-known
Although the thought of resisting is tempting, at some point OS upgrades ( Mavericks and Win 8.1 will be interesting tests ) are going to break the current standalone versions of PS.
I don't see Adobe issuing patches.
I don't see any recent versions of Photoshop not working on the next few major versions of OS X. I believe that I'm correct in saying that the only older versions of Photoshop/CS applications that won't run on recent Mac systems are applications that were compiled to run only on older PowerPC processors.
I've had very few problems using older applications as I've upgraded to the last few Mac systems running on Intel processors. I may be proved wrong but I wouldn't worry too much about CS5 and CS6 (and probably CS 4) apps running on Mavericks.
Tom
tjh
Well-known
Apparently CS3 will also work on the latest (Mountain Lion 10.8) systems:
http://blogs.adobe.com/photoshopdotcom/2012/08/osx-10-8-mountain-lion-released.html
Tom
http://blogs.adobe.com/photoshopdotcom/2012/08/osx-10-8-mountain-lion-released.html
Tom
thirtyfivefifty
Noctilust survivor
This is not caving in. It's just a temporary attempt to lure photographers.
FA Limited
missing in action
this is not caving in at all. when adobe released the Creative Cloud, they said they realized that photographers have different needs and they would release something for them. for the time being Lightroom can still be purchased off cloud.
however they did screw over the people who signed up for $20/mo for Photoshop CC only. i hope they get this deal too.
however they did screw over the people who signed up for $20/mo for Photoshop CC only. i hope they get this deal too.
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