Adobe goes full evil

Chriscrawfordphoto said:
Capture One is $300 for a permanent license. Adobe charges $120 a year for the Photography plan (Photoshop and Lightroom). So, Capture One is actually about 2 and a half years of Adobe. If Phase One updates Capture One, they'll charge you to upgrade. Adobe doesn't. I don't think there's a real price difference. ...
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I missed option of Lightroom CC only, which seems to be $9.99 month, so by going that route yes Adobe becomes cheaper (least at the moment). But methinks CaptureOne capabilities are closer to that of Photoshop, not Lightroom. am quite used to pay for upgrades, and do those at my own pace and needs.
 
This reminds me, I still want to buy the last standalone version of Lightroom, which I think is version 6? I've been running 4.4 for years now, but I have to convert newer camera files to DNG to edit them in LR 4.4.
 
jarski said:
I missed option of Lightroom CC only, which seems to be $9.99 month, so by going that route yes Adobe becomes cheaper (least at the moment). But methinks CaptureOne capabilities are closer to that of Photoshop, not Lightroom. am quite used to pay for upgrades, and do those at my own pace and needs.
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The $9.99 plan includes both Photoshop and lightroom. At least in the USA.
 
Archiver said:
This reminds me, I still want to buy the last standalone version of Lightroom, which I think is version 6? I've been running 4.4 for years now, but I have to convert newer camera files to DNG to edit them in LR 4.4.
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Yes LR 6 series ended in version 6.14, but even that has started shown signs of aging with latest MacOS.
 
PRJ said:
You probably updated it into the next version as a "trial" and didn't realize you did it.
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Not at all ... I emailed them and was told that they had decided to discontinue with the version I was using which was a basic raw converter that came with the first M8s. Shortly after this ACDSee included the Leica raw files into their Pro software system so I was fine.

I was unimpressed that attempting to update my raw converter effectively nobbled it ... and brought up a message on the interface telling you that the program was no longer functional and here was your option! At this point I had owned my M8 for less than a year from memory and Capture One had been supplied with the camera on disc in the Leica box with an activation code.
 
PRJ said:
If you are shooting completely digital, switch to Capture One. The quality of the color in Capture One blows away Adobe.
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I use Capture NX-D. It's free. To me RAW is for basic adjustments. I have to laugh when RAW shooters claim they "want complete control over their vision"... then slap on some preset to their capture.
 
nightfly said:
I saw this and was going to post. It's basically why I never bought into CC and have been using the last stand alone versions of Lightroom and Photoshop for the past several years. That and the fact that I think the software was mature several generations ago and none of the new enhancements really are significant for me.

Once Muse spits out the HTML, you should be fine. You just might need to find a new editor.
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I also am still with Photoshop CS6 and I still use Adobe Pagemill :)eek:) for updates to my website as archaic as it is.
 
jarski said:
Yes LR 6 series ended in version 6.14, but even that has started shown signs of aging with latest MacOS.
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I still use PS CS6 and kept an old Windows Vista machine to work my images. I know I am just an old fart who refuses constant change. But since I am no longer doing photography for work but just for self fullfullment, that is fine. I also am still using an old Epson R2400 printer that I converted to black&white using Jon Cone's Piezography inks.
 
peterm1 said:
Were I a professional who uses a photo editor every day and upon which my income depended (especially bearing in mind I could get a tax deduction for the cost of the monthly fee) I might be happy to pay a monthly fee. But for an amateur shooter like me it is simply not cost effective.
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Well said, Peter!
 
I'm 100% analog now, but in my scanning/inkjet printing days I used an old pirated copy of PS7 that my ex wife's son made for me. I can't figure out why anyone would need more than that? Unless I totally blew the shot, it gives way more editing controls than I could ever use or need.

And yes, I feel good that I deprived Adobe of money, Companies like them, Google, Facebook, etc are simply con jobs that extort money from people, and have the ethical principles of pirates and criminals. Anything I can do that contributes to their demise is a good thing.
 
Steve M. said:
I'm 100% analog now, but in my scanning/inkjet printing days I used an old pirated copy of PS7 that my ex wife's son made for me. I can't figure out why anyone would need more than that? Unless I totally blew the shot, it gives way more editing controls than I could ever use or need.

And yes, I feel good that I deprived Adobe of money, Companies like them, Google, Facebook, etc are simply con jobs that extort money from people, and have the ethical principles of pirates and criminals. Anything I can do that contributes to their demise is a good thing.
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Replacing photoshop is easy. It's the organizational abilities of Lightroom that I need. I'm running LR5 right now. Once that breaks then I am off Adobe for good. Not sure what is best to replace LR with yet.
 
I keep getting messages that Lightroom--or maybe some parts of LR--will no longer work with the next version of the Mac OS. That despite a systems review that shows it's compliant with the planned future update.

There is no updating LR 6 so I may be dumping it in the future. Not sure right now what might replace it for me. I've been very happy with LR in the past. It replaced proprietary software I had been using from Canon and Olympus as well as Picasa and Apple's Photos. But I'm not too keen on Adobe's recent practices.

Fuji in conjunction with Luminar is offering a free download of Luminar 3 for Fuji. I think I'll give that try.
 
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