Landberg
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I have owned the original and the S.
Advice please: Leica Q or X100T?
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I have owned the original and the S.
kennylovrin
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I always find these kinds of questions curious.. Even comparing two cameras of so vastly different price as two options kind of is the answer in itself I suspect - one wouldn't even consider the Leica if that wasn't what one really wanted.
That is totally fine of course, but I think a feeling of satisfaction won't appear with any other camera than he Q (in this case).
Objectively speaking I agree that to track kids a SLR seems like the most sensible option.
Subjectively speaking, I'd say go for the Q. 🙂
That is totally fine of course, but I think a feeling of satisfaction won't appear with any other camera than he Q (in this case).
Objectively speaking I agree that to track kids a SLR seems like the most sensible option.
Subjectively speaking, I'd say go for the Q. 🙂
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I do want a Leica, but I'm also sensible enough to know that if a camera 1/3rd the cost gives the same results, the savings can be spent on a holiday.
I had the chance to play with a Q today for 10 minutes, a friend of a friend of a friend owns one. I fell in love with it straight away, but after 5 minutes it lost it's charm. It's fast and has the little red dot but feels like any other point and shoot. The manual focus was ok but nothing like I was hoping.
So yes, I'm 100% waiting to see what happens. In the meantime I'm going to buy the X100T as I can get one for £700 new. And then I'm going to shoot a lot, print a lot, and enjoy it whilst I patiently wait to see what Leica do. 🙂
I had the chance to play with a Q today for 10 minutes, a friend of a friend of a friend owns one. I fell in love with it straight away, but after 5 minutes it lost it's charm. It's fast and has the little red dot but feels like any other point and shoot. The manual focus was ok but nothing like I was hoping.
So yes, I'm 100% waiting to see what happens. In the meantime I'm going to buy the X100T as I can get one for £700 new. And then I'm going to shoot a lot, print a lot, and enjoy it whilst I patiently wait to see what Leica do. 🙂
jsrockit
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Yes, it acts like a regular Leica M lens... with the addition of a macro function.
jsrockit
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What did you expect?
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I don't know. But it didn't feel like a Leica. I guess I'll save for something with a real RF in it.
jsrockit
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Yeah, that was expecting a little too much. Its hard... when you want a digital Leica, there is no substitute unfortunately.
giellaleafapmu
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f16sunshine
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That is promising. If they develop other FL's direct feedback mechanical focus would be great.
I can't stand focus by wire although I have become quiet happy using the "snap" manual focus of the fuji system (set to manual and use ael/afl button).
Using my fuji yesterday , ... The advantage of apsc is the lens size.
If Leica brought an aps-c camera modeled after the Q using a summicon 2/35 lens , they may be able to take a good amount of those x100/s/t sales from Fuji.
Sure it would be a 50mm equiv but I believe many really want a 50mm fixed lens anyway.
I would love a 50mm FL equiv apsc Leica with a 2/35 lens.
No need for extra speed with modern sensors really.... F2 is a sweet spot.
F2 at 35mm on aps gives a good dof for portrait shoiters, street, and bokeh heads.
It keeps lens size to a much more acceptable compact range than full frame f2 lenses can do.
The 35 summicron aps Q with 16mp and a BIG hi mag evf at $2500 - $3000.....?bring it Leica!! ( or fuji for $1500 😛 ).
jsrockit
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I'd rather have full frame and I'll take the size hit. For some reason, after being a small camera guy my whole life, I now like the Nikon Df and its size.
willie_901
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Unless the lenses designed (focal length and widest aperture) specifically for the APS-C sensor are unsuitable, I don't see a compelling reason for a 24 X 36 mm sensor.
It's all about the lenses. If I had set of lenses I had carefully curated over decades I would not consider an APS-C camera. If I enjoyed extreme subject isolation I would not consider an APS-C camera. If I couldn't stand the out-of-focus region rendering of the APS-C lenses I would not consider an APS-C camera.
It's all about the lenses. If I had set of lenses I had carefully curated over decades I would not consider an APS-C camera. If I enjoyed extreme subject isolation I would not consider an APS-C camera. If I couldn't stand the out-of-focus region rendering of the APS-C lenses I would not consider an APS-C camera.
Dante_Stella
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I have, and I wouldn't say the Q is noticeably faster, if at all. The thing to understand is that the moving weight of the X100T optics is very small, so as against the one element of a Q lens that moves, it's a close call.
The Q has a much better EVF, it feels very solid, and if I didn't have an X100T and like 62 M lenses (ok, exaggeration but it feels like that when I am trying to corral lens caps), I would probably snag one.
I have two small kids (2 and 5), and the X100T face-detect is fast enough. My blurred shots have only really come from forgetting to take the camera off f/5.6 indoors, and that has nothing to do with the focusing and everything to do with sleep deprivation.
The Q is a wonderful camera, but understand that it is double the size and quadruple the weight.
Dante
jsrockit
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Ok, not in my experience, but I understand we don't all photograph the same way.
Disappointed_Horse
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Ronald M
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Would not buy a fixed lens camera specially with a wide lens.
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Update: first day out with the X100T today. Amazing little camera. All pictures of the kid so not sure I'll post but it's incredibly quick AF helped me out a lot. Manual focus is great too. Very happy.
jsrockit
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Good for you man... glad it worked out! Enjoy.
Dante_Stella
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A quick update on this: Manual focus on the X100T is amazing, what I wanted from the start. It's a great camera, I'm just as fast with it as I am with my Nikon DSLR. So I'm happy.
But I'm also buying a Leica. It has to happen, I don't need to explain why. Not sure if I'll go with a very clean M8.2 or an M9 yet, I know I need to do research but I am struggling to get sensible reasons as to what to go for. both make great images, so I'm thinking of the long term life of the machine.
Cheers all.
But I'm also buying a Leica. It has to happen, I don't need to explain why. Not sure if I'll go with a very clean M8.2 or an M9 yet, I know I need to do research but I am struggling to get sensible reasons as to what to go for. both make great images, so I'm thinking of the long term life of the machine.
Cheers all.
willie_901
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Sorry, but this is not possible. All Fujifilm X-Series cameras must be evaluated based on the very first model released and without consideration of firmware improvements.🙄
Even with it's primitive CPU and relatively insensitive (for low light) CDAF, the X-Pro 1 MF and AF performance can be fast in the right hands. Of course the newer X-Series cameras are faster and benefit for the use of PDAF technology.
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