texchappy
Well-known
I'm loving my Fuji X Pro 1 and am excited about the lenses coming out soon. I'm not so excited about the Canon system I keep around to capture wildlife (actually bought back into DSLR).
So get out your crystal balls and ouji gray cards. Do you think the X system (or MFT or any mirroless system) will rival DSLR's anytime soon for quick tracking af for sports and wildlife?
TIA,
Tony
So get out your crystal balls and ouji gray cards. Do you think the X system (or MFT or any mirroless system) will rival DSLR's anytime soon for quick tracking af for sports and wildlife?
TIA,
Tony
f16sunshine
Moderator
I don't think so.
For one thing speed from DSLR or Range finder will come from not having to close the shutter before re-opening it as the Xpro does.
The lag I feel when using my Xpro1 comes from this process (focus from sensor, close shutter, open shutter to take image). It's the number one reason i miss the exact moment I wish to catch (not every time but certainly some misses).
With my 5Dii I set focus and shoot. With the Rangefinders I set focus and shoot.
With the Xpro1 I set focus and shoot then the camera does it's "thing" and takes the shot.
Others may disagree that this is much lag time but it exists like it or not and… can affect your keep rate.
As far as focus accuracy goes. Since the Eos system implemented the ability of adjusting AF of each lens to a particular body.
I have adjusted a couple of AF lenses and AF emulator chips on manual lenses and find accuracy to be absolutely tits every time.
Plus I have installed a high contrast micro prism focus screen that makes focus peaking look like a cartoon.
For one thing speed from DSLR or Range finder will come from not having to close the shutter before re-opening it as the Xpro does.
The lag I feel when using my Xpro1 comes from this process (focus from sensor, close shutter, open shutter to take image). It's the number one reason i miss the exact moment I wish to catch (not every time but certainly some misses).
With my 5Dii I set focus and shoot. With the Rangefinders I set focus and shoot.
With the Xpro1 I set focus and shoot then the camera does it's "thing" and takes the shot.
Others may disagree that this is much lag time but it exists like it or not and… can affect your keep rate.
As far as focus accuracy goes. Since the Eos system implemented the ability of adjusting AF of each lens to a particular body.
I have adjusted a couple of AF lenses and AF emulator chips on manual lenses and find accuracy to be absolutely tits every time.
Plus I have installed a high contrast micro prism focus screen that makes focus peaking look like a cartoon.
Jamie Pillers
Skeptic
I don't think so.
For one thing speed from DSLR or Range finder will come from not having to close the shutter before re-opening it as the Xpro does.
The lag I feel when using my Xpro1 comes from this process (focus from sensor, close shutter, open shutter to take image). It's the number one reason i miss the exact moment I wish to catch (not every time but certainly some misses).
With my 5Dii I set focus and shoot. With the Rangefinders I set focus and shoot.
With the Xpro1 I set focus and shoot then the camera does it's "thing" and takes the shot.
Others may disagree that this is much lag time but it exists like it or not and… can affect your keep rate.
As far as focus accuracy goes. Since the Eos system implemented the ability of adjusting AF of each lens to a particular body.
I have adjusted a couple of AF lenses and AF emulator chips on manual lenses and find accuracy to be absolutely tits every time.
Plus I have installed a high contrast micro prism focus screen that makes focus peaking look like a cartoon.
Is the process you describe for the XPro1 the same if you're using a manual focus lens?
f16sunshine
Moderator
The best way to eliminate lag in the xpro I have found is:
Set Exposure fully Manually.
Optical viewfinder.
Manual focus.
Anything that requires info from the sensor af, AE, EVF or LCD etc will create some amount of lag.
Usually not a big deal but sometimes looses the catch.
The less the light the more the lag seems to be true as well.
Set Exposure fully Manually.
Optical viewfinder.
Manual focus.
Anything that requires info from the sensor af, AE, EVF or LCD etc will create some amount of lag.
Usually not a big deal but sometimes looses the catch.
The less the light the more the lag seems to be true as well.
texchappy
Well-known
Well if Manual focus is my only option then I guess I'll be stuck with my DSLR a little longer.
Do you think the X system (or MFT or any mirroless system) will rival DSLR's anytime soon for quick tracking af for sports and wildlife?
I doubt it...
Spyro
Well-known
nope it will take a while I reckon
maybe next gen OMD, and then fuji *might* follow
maybe next gen OMD, and then fuji *might* follow
willie_901
Veteran
There's focus lag, exposure lag and EVF lag.
You can eliminate the latter and limit the other two to 10 msec. (with the X-Pro 1 and X100/100s) if you understand how the camera works. With the EVF only cameras you can limit the first two.
EVF lag will get shorter and shorter with faster technology. Of course it will never be as fast as an OVF. But at some point 99+% of photographers won't care about EVF delay.
You can eliminate the latter and limit the other two to 10 msec. (with the X-Pro 1 and X100/100s) if you understand how the camera works. With the EVF only cameras you can limit the first two.
EVF lag will get shorter and shorter with faster technology. Of course it will never be as fast as an OVF. But at some point 99+% of photographers won't care about EVF delay.
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