AI Cameras

[bulevardi]

Oh lord... (I guess there's already a topic for this but... )

Haven't read all about the details, but where's the world going to...
I notice it has a Leica lens.

Even my phone already has built-in AI-tools for the camera. Now they made a camera to use together with your phone... eh...

The Controversial Camera with Built-in Generative AI Blew Past Its Crowdfunding Goal

The Caira camera, the rebrand of the camera formerly known as Alice, has blown past its Kickstarter funding goal in its first day.

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Caira Is an 'AI-Native' Micro Four Thirds Camera With Google's 'Nano Banana' Generative AI Built-In

This new Micro Four Thirds camera from the makers of Alice is all-in on generative AI.

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[p.giannakis]

Unless it is Ai that saves lives and sends spaceships to distant galaxies, I am not interested.

 

[Alpsman]

While I read this, I pat my fully mechanical Nikon F with F36, which is sitting next to me on the table.

 

[Godfrey]

Oh lord... (I guess there's already a topic for this but... )

Haven't read all about the details, but where's the world going to...
I notice it has a Leica lens.

Even my phone already has built-in AI-tools for the camera. Now they made a camera to use together with your phone... eh...

The Controversial Camera with Built-in Generative AI Blew Past Its Crowdfunding Goal

The Caira camera, the rebrand of the camera formerly known as Alice, has blown past its Kickstarter funding goal in its first day.

petapixel.com

Caira Is an 'AI-Native' Micro Four Thirds Camera With Google's 'Nano Banana' Generative AI Built-In

This new Micro Four Thirds camera from the makers of Alice is all-in on generative AI.

petapixel.com

Remember the Alice Camera device is a micro-FourThirds camera with interchangeable lenses that uses a smartphone as a controller, netting a much larger sensor and access to mFT system lenses and accessories. Panasonic and Leica collaborated on several (excellent) lenses for the mFT system.

I remain uninterested in AI with respect to its image capture and generative capabilities. That's not Photography, far as I'm concerned, or at very least not MY Photography. Adaptive, easy to use tools for editing use, to simplify what I do now, are welcome additions to my toolset but I don't consider that "AI" ... just good tools. What's the point of doing Photography if you're just telling a robot how to draw a picture for you?

And I have enough good cameras, both film and digital, that trying to entice me with the notion of AI cameras falls on deaf ears.

G

 

[JeffS7444]

Judging from their previous project, I'd be reluctant to fund this one: Backers claiming that they haven't gotten their product 4+ years later, while it's being sold via retail channels like B&H at a discounted price.

 

[Mackinaw]

Not my cup of tea, but it's the tip of the iceberg. I got a feeling you ain't seen nothing yet.

Jim B.

 

[Godfrey]

Judging from their previous project, I'd be reluctant to fund this one: Backers claiming that they haven't gotten their product 4+ years later, while it's being sold via retail channels like B&H at a discounted price.

... And there's what I'd prefer rather than dumping money into kickstarter programs ... I'm happy with a product when I see it reach and be available through a traditional retailer, not when the only way you can get it is to be part of a funding program. I'd much rather if more enterprising folks with a great idea simply put up a "please help fund me to do this project" and offered the product reward through a traditional retailer with an agreed upon coupon purchase, that was sent as soon as you bought in, and was transferable to other goods (at a lowered discount rate) if the project failed.

G

 

[agentlossing]

I can take crappy images all on my own, I don't need AI for that.

 

[jszokoli]

If it's generating images that are fundamentally different from what its lens is seeing it is not a camera but something entirely different.
Joe

 

[Rob-F]

Maybe, just as Fuji has options for rendering the image as if taken with Sensia, Velvia, etc., this thing can show how your shot would look if taken by Ansel Adams, Vivian Maier, or . . .

 

[Mos6502]

So it's a camera that bullshits [pardon my French] in real time? Seems appropriate for our era.

 

[Pioneer]

First it was WYSIWYG. This is more examples of WYSINWYG "what you see is not what you get."

 

[farlymac]

Next, they'll have cameras that all you have to do is point it and the AI will decide the framing, aspect ratio, exposure, background removal, object removal, add/subtract people, skin toning, add scene elements like balloons or such, change the lighting angle, etc., etc., etc. Oh, and it will also automatically take the photo, so the camera is no longer a Point and Shoot model. And it's also no longer the image you wanted but fits the algorithm of what is popular at the moment because it is linked with all other cameras within Bluetooth range.

PF

 

[GMOG]

This one doesn't have a lens!

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[Godfrey]

This one doesn't have a lens!

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Hah! It uses a mole's nose as a sensor ... LOL! 🤣

G

 

[farlymac]

This one doesn't have a lens!

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Well, that didn't take long. I'm always behind the curve on new technology anyway.

PF

 

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[Alpsman]

I can take crappy images all on my own, I don't need AI for that.

Is there an app that simulates camera shake?

I'm asking for a friend.

 

[Alpsman]

The technology is fantastic – there's nothing to complain about there.
I admire what some programmers and engineers come up with.
Not to mention, I envy their ingenuity.

But:
The result is that our brains, as users, are no longer challenged and become apathetic.
Our imagination is no longer stimulated and falls asleep.

Most people are lazy.
Me too.

And anything that supports our laziness is gratefully accepted.
We only want the result, not the effort required to get there.
As a consequence, we're becoming increasingly stupid.
And you can do anything to a stupid populace and tell them anything.
They'll do and believe anything because they don't know any better.

But everyone has to decide that for themselves. While they still can.

Personally, I think it's best for myself, not to even try such devices.
I might develop a taste for them and go down the path I described without realizing it. It would be so easy and convenient.

 

[Mos6502]

I don't think people are reacting strongly enough to the fact that the tech companies want to condition us to not think, not problem solve, so we have to pay them to do it for us.

A few years ago I read an article about how the skill of sketching has declined rapidly around the world, but particularly in the West. People are no longer solving problems by drawing them out and figuring out a solution. People can't read diagrams or understand schematics, much less make their own, even for the simplest of issues. Now we're reading about how a larger and larger portion of the population, particularly in the U.S. is functionally illiterate. It's not that they can't read and write words, it that's they often don't know what words actually mean, and use them imprecisely or entirely incorrectly. Context and subtext go completely over people's heads. And it's not just young people who haven't been taught correctly, older demographics are losing grasp (and from my perspective, willfully, as any challenge or discomfort seems to turn people into horses with blinders on eating the hay these days).

The danger here ties neatly into products that can't be maintained or repaired, by the owner (or even at all!). Now that product is aimed to be thinking, not just phones, tractors, etc.