Alberto Korda/Che Guevara

landsknechte said:
When's the last time you've been on a university campus? Somehow I doubt that posters and t-shirts of Reagan and Nixon ever became as popular as counter-culture statements in communist countries.
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When's the last time you went to a country where English wasn't the official language?
 
OK, let me lighten this up with a trivia contest: 1) Who is this woman, 2) What camera is she using, 3) What does this have to do with Che?

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Gabriel M.A. said:
When's the last time you went to a country where English wasn't the official language?
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Wow, that was arrogant and irrelevant.

(2003, if you must know.)

I'm not arguing the merits of whether or not Che should be canonized or demonized. It's pretty obvious that people have taken advantage of one compelling photograph of the man, and used it to make money off of him. Anyone with the slightest familiarity with politics can see the difference between that profiteering and governments using opposition figures as thier own version of Emmanuel Goldstein.

Here in America, we have Bin Ladin to be the boogieman. Che is the figure that people gravitate to when they want to absorb some of his revolutionary mojo without actually doing anything more revolutionary than buying a t-shirt.
 
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Gabriel M.A. said:
A "capitalist brand image"? How so?

How is Che Guevara a "communist cold-blooded murderer"? And how is this point of view any different from those that think of Nixon and Reagan as ... well, just change "communist" with "capitalist" in your statement. They both were a "capitalist brand image" in communist countries' propaganda.
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Capitalist brand image...have you not seen the Che stores (here is one: http://www.thechestore.com/) where one can buy all sorts of items with his image on it? If that's not capitalst branding, I don't know what is. There are actually retail stores in tourist areas like Riviera Maya in Mexico that sell nothing but Che gear. And most of the tourists have no clue who he was or what he stood for.

Now, I can understand pop icons like Bob Marley being popular on t-shirts, but wearing a Che shirt is akin to wearing a shirt with Stalin or Hitler on it...

Communist cold-blooded murderer? That's pretty self explanatory.
 
David Murphy said:
OK, let me lighten this up with a trivia contest: 1) Who is this woman, 2) What camera is she using, 3) What does this have to do with Che?

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Che's girlfriend Tamara Bunke Bider aka " Tania" with some early 1960s fixed lens RF camera, most probably japanese.
she was also killed in Bolivia in 1967 and her remains were found recently.
 
Ron (Netherlands) said:
I believe this is the last pic they made of the man....

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interesting image of a Christ like Che after he was taken down from the cross(J.C. that is).
This must have been a powerful photo in Roman Catholic countries like in Central America who were use to this kind of iconography in religious paintings.
Carravagio comes to mind.
 
xayraa33 said:
Che's girlfriend Tamara Bunke Bider aka " Tania" with some early 1960s fixed lens RF camera, most probably japanese.
she was also killed in Bolivia in 1967 and her remains were found recently.
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Excellent! (2 out of 3). Now the camera model someone?
 
no no from the shape of the vf/rf front window it might be an early version of the Canon fixed lenses, like ql19 ?
 
digitalintrigue said:
Ironic how a communist cold-blooded murderer has become a capitalist brand image.
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And why is that image of Che so popular all over the world? Perhaps because he represents an alternative to the capitalist cold blooded murderer in charge of the most powerful nation in the world......

:D ....couldn't resist!!!
 
fgianni said:
Well Nixon wasn't a cold blooded murderer......
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If you spent some time in Cambodia where thousands and thousands were killed and maimed by Nixon's illegal "carpet bombing" you might have a different opinion
 
it's ok, they are not so cool any more thanks to the fact that they've become such a...capitalist brand image!! :D :D
 
If it's uncool to have college football teams called the Indians, and if it's uncool to fly the Confederate flag, and if it's uncool to display the Nazi Swastika, and if one can't have cartoons of Muhammed without resulting in riots and murder, it should logically follow that it's uncool to wear Che gear...one would think anyway.

Alternatively, let's just get rid of political incorrectness altogether...

Now, time to order one of these:

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:)
 
digitalintrigue said:
If it's uncool to have college football teams called the Indians, and if it's uncool to fly the Confederate flag, and if it's uncool to display the Nazi Swastika, and if one can't have cartoons of Muhammed without resulting in riots and murder, it should logically follow that it's uncool to wear Che gear...one would think anyway.

Alternatively, let's just get rid of political incorrectness altogether...

Now, time to order one of these:

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:)
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That's funny. Humor saves the day!
 
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