xayraa33
rangefinder user and fancier
It looks like the camera Tania has might be a Beauty Light O Matic III, seen on this japanese site marked as Light O Matic V.
http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~rd2h-ari/OTHERS_LIST.htm
http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~rd2h-ari/OTHERS_LIST.htm
David Murphy
Veteran
xayraa33 said:It looks like the camera Tania has might be a Beauty Light O Matic III, seen on this japanese site marked as Light O Matic V.
http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~rd2h-ari/OTHERS_LIST.htm
I think this is correct. In fact I should know as I own a Beauty LM. BTW Beauty's are under appreciated cameras in my view. They had several models.
Here are a few beauty's:
http://www.camerapedia.org/wiki/Taiyōdō
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Gabriel M.A.
My Red Dot Glows For You
No, it does not logically follow. By the same logic, it's uncool to wear anything made in China. And you know Nixon went there...digitalintrigue said:If it's uncool to have college football teams called the Indians, and if it's uncool to fly the Confederate flag, and if it's uncool to display the Nazi Swastika, and if one can't have cartoons of Muhammed without resulting in riots and murder, it should logically follow that it's uncool to wear Che gear...one would think anyway.
xayraa33
rangefinder user and fancier
speaking of T - shirts, do I win a "Che " T- shirts for getting the correct answers?
no?
not even a Beauty Light O Matic camera?
a trip to Bolivia maybe?
no?
not even a Beauty Light O Matic camera?
a trip to Bolivia maybe?
meven
Well-known
Gabriel M.A. said:When's the last time you went to a country where English wasn't the official language?
What kind of statement is that?????
bean_counter
Well-known
Gabriel M.A. said:Not far from my neighbourhood I've seen cars with Nixon/Agnew '72 bumper stickers
A few years ago, I visited a friend's workplace (her father's business), and there was a Nixon/Lodge '60 window decal on the door of of a long unused office.
Alas, her faather lost the business before I could get her to remove the window to save it. The building was soon after demolished.
landsknechte
Well-known
I think have a 'Nixon Now!' in my politial button collection... 
ClaremontPhoto
Jon Claremont
The Guardian has a photo gallery here:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/gallery/2007/oct/05/internationalnews1?picture=330898727
http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/gallery/2007/oct/05/internationalnews1?picture=330898727
jjovin
Established
Another BBC article
Another BBC article
More photos of Che Guevara in an article about the man who was instrumental in his murder.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7027619.stm
Another BBC article
More photos of Che Guevara in an article about the man who was instrumental in his murder.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7027619.stm
This is my favourite use of the famous Che image 

"One of the most famous faces of communism is getting a makeover this week, with a new poster designed to teach students the whole story about Cuban revolutionary icon Ernesto "Che" Guevara.
"The Victims of Che Guevera" poster, produced by the Young America's Foundation, centers on a collage that uses tiny photos of those killed by Cuba's communist regime to compose the face of the Marxist guerrilla, who has become a popular T-shirt icon."
"Che is one of the heroes that the left idolizes," said Patrick X. Coyle, vice president of YAF. "But a lot of kids don't know anything about him. We thought this would be a great way to highlight his atrocities."
http://www.washingtontimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071105/CULTURE/111050092/1015
cp_ste.croix
At the beginning again.
See the difference between Che and say, any American president since WWII is that Che was at least involved in attempting the greater good for the greater number of people, whatever you may think of the outcomes. American political leaders have been involved in primarily protecting and expanding American business interests. Yes, Che killed people, but he was never as good at it as people like Kissenger and the like. Furthermore, I would argue that the opression of opposition views within Cuba is directly related to the external pressures levied on Cuba by the American government.
That said, this topic started off as a discussion about an iconic image. The image itself is devoid of any politics save those we atribute to it.
That said, this topic started off as a discussion about an iconic image. The image itself is devoid of any politics save those we atribute to it.
Spider67
Well-known
Actually "Der Spiegel" featured a background story.
The fact that many members of the Bolivian army personnel who dealt with him are either dead or severely wounded (spending their days in wheelchairs) has led to the rumor that there is a "Curse of Che".
The guy who killed him was a beneficiary of some kind of medical exchange programme and got free eye surgery by Cuban doctors and even wrote a thank you letter to Castro.
Well making an icon out of a person is rather difficult as you will always find something. OK equalling Che to Hitler is a bit hard. As a conservative journalist in my country once wrote:"There's the one major difference between a communist and a Nazi: A communist at least started with the idea that all people are equal (concerning race) whereas for a Nazi there were always inferior races"
If they had put him on trial I think there would be no T-shirts. I also think that the second photo also helped buildinhg up his image as a martyr.
The fact that many members of the Bolivian army personnel who dealt with him are either dead or severely wounded (spending their days in wheelchairs) has led to the rumor that there is a "Curse of Che".
The guy who killed him was a beneficiary of some kind of medical exchange programme and got free eye surgery by Cuban doctors and even wrote a thank you letter to Castro.
Well making an icon out of a person is rather difficult as you will always find something. OK equalling Che to Hitler is a bit hard. As a conservative journalist in my country once wrote:"There's the one major difference between a communist and a Nazi: A communist at least started with the idea that all people are equal (concerning race) whereas for a Nazi there were always inferior races"
If they had put him on trial I think there would be no T-shirts. I also think that the second photo also helped buildinhg up his image as a martyr.
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That's a good use (Hitler vs. Che) for the term 'lesser of two evils' I suppose.
But blaming America for Cuba's oppression is a laughable.
http://www.free-biscet.org/
But blaming America for Cuba's oppression is a laughable.
http://www.free-biscet.org/
cp_ste.croix
At the beginning again.
I don't know, if the Americans had tried to murder my PM more than once, and invaded, I might be a little paranoid. Don't get me wrong, the oppression in Cuba is wrong, and unjustifiable, but I don't know what the US is doing to help. On a positive note, their healthcare is amazing.
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