An ________ Year. (help me decide)

An ________ Year. (help me decide)

  • Argus C3

    Votes: 4 19.0%
  • Ihagee Exa

    Votes: 11 52.4%
  • Ansco No. 2

    Votes: 6 28.6%

  • Total voters
    21
  • Poll closed .

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When I read that article about doing "A Leica Year" back in 2009, I thought it was a good idea... but I thought the specification of a Leica was odd.

So you're going to use your best camera and probably best lens for a year. Isn't that what you'd do anyway? I understood the logic behind the idea to a point. That familiarizing yourself with a set piece of equipment would make you a better photographer. No switching and swapping on a whim for this or that situation.

But the general idea reminded me of a somewhat flippant remark in The Amateur Photographer's Handbook that if everybody had to start out with a box camera instead of the latest gadget laden camera, there'd be a lot more good photographers out there.

The idea being that a lot of people get in over their head before they've learned to take good photos with even a simple camera. Too many options, settings, too much obsession with gear. The best camera will do anything a photographer wants, but the best photographer can make any camera do what he wants. Or something to that effect. Maybe it's a bit mystical. Though on the practical side there's nothing wrong with being an ingenious photographer who can work around the limitations of limited equipment.

So to the point, I wanted to try a year shooting with a camera that would make me think, and offered only a limited range of adjustments. I dug into my closet and pulled these out:

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The Argus because it's an Argus. Top shutter speed is a nominal 1/300 (actual speed is more like 1/200) - widest aperture is f3.5 Knob wind, manually cocked shutter, no slow speeds, etc.

The Exa - Shutter speeds 1/25 through 1/150 +B. Widest aperture f2.9 (really stretching to get out of the 3 territory). Knob wind, etc. Reflex "waist level" viewfinder.

The Ansco No. 2 -one shutter speed +time. Two apertures. Fixed focus. (has two viewfinders though - which makes it twice as good for composing)

Vote for your favorite. 🙂

Personally, the Exa is in the lead right now because of all of the cameras it is the best made and most precise, despite its limitations. The Ansco is second, primarily because I have no way to scan or print 6x9 negatives. Although if I really wanted to I'm sure I could figure out something. It's not quite as inane as it might seem at first, films like Tmax have extended the range of conditions under which a box camera is useful - and it's easier to pull a decent print out of a big poorly exposed negative than it is to pull one out of a 35mm poorly exposed negative.
The Argus is last because it is so boring. 😀

Oh and in case anybody suggests it, I decided to steer clear of cameras like the Holga because I find their aberrations distracting. Yes they are simple, but I want to see the image, not blur and vignetting. Maybe in the future though.
 
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I'd vote for the Ansco (for you), just because it will make you work the hardest. Personally I'd probably choose the Argus since I've never shot one and always had the itch to.
 
If you want to think -- really think -- and have a camera with limited adjustments (and probably a limited number of frames on the film?), then there's only one choice. The Ansco.
 
I'd personally go for the box camera, looks to have a meniscus lens which should give you an interesting aesthetic. If you can get a year of shooting that thing and producing anything worth keeping you've done something.

Todd
 
The best camera will do anything a photographer wants, but the best photographer can make any camera do what he wants.

That's an odd line of reasoning. So is the best photographer simply someone who can use any kind of camera? That would make 'good photographer' analogous with 'good technician'.

I would think it's more reasonable to say that technical obstacles can be overcome and they shouldn't be a excuse for not making compelling images.

Keep in mind that almost any kind of camera you use for the first time will take getting used to. You can learn to bring the best out of a Brownie and maybe after a year you'll have many decent images from it but that doesn't mean you'll be better at using another camera. Once you switch to that Leica it'll take just as long getting used to that.

Personally I find it much harder to make a good picture with my Canon 5DII than with my Olympus mjuII P&S. The Olympus has a lot more charm and character than the 5DII. The same might be true of a Brownie or Argus or whatever.
 
The Exa would be my vote of those listed. It has a good lens. I would want a prism for it, though. But if you are going to run what you brung, the Exa would be it.
 
In true RFF fashion, I'll ask if you might not be better off with either an Alpa (ancient or modern) or a 13x23 inch Columbiad.

And of course only if I used them both at the same time.


I'd personally go for the box camera, looks to have a meniscus lens which should give you an interesting aesthetic. If you can get a year of shooting that thing and producing anything worth keeping you've done something.

Todd

I shot a couple of rolls through it three years ago and the results were soft, but not unpleasant:
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The bigger issue was light coming in through the red window, which I more or less solved by using a piece of tape during the second roll.

I guess I ought to look for a 6x9 holder anyway, since I have several 6x9 folders I need to use.
 
That's an odd line of reasoning. So is the best photographer simply someone who can use any kind of camera? That would make 'good photographer' analogous with 'good technician'.

Simply using a camera is much different from getting what you want out of it. 😉

I'm pretty sure anybody could go pick up a box camera, go outside on a sunny day and make a couple of decent snaps. But that's not the point. It's about making one think about how to get a shot if they don't have every option at their disposal.
 
This sounds like a hellish experiment to me. I like my cameras enough, that sticking with ANY single camera for a year would frustrate the hell out of me.

But if I had to, I'd go with the camera with the most capabilities.

And, I realize that might be counter to the intent. But, it's the only way I can consider it.
 
The Exa is an awesome little camera -- is it the one with the vertical-traveling metal shutter? It only has four shutter speeds (25-50-100-150, and B) so it would have a degree of constraint. Plus, that Meritar lens (pre-set?) isn't the greatest. But then I guess the question is whether constraint is going to make you think more? Do more features make you think less?

I'm still sticking with the Ansco, but I could be swayed to the Exa.....
 
I'd love to vote for the box camera but I'm using one myself and I know how restrictive it can be. Some Tri-x, a tripod, , a light meter a trigger cable and a selection of ND filters is just enough to get a photo from a stationary object ;-)

I've never handled the Argus so my vote goes for the Exa.
 
The Exa is an awesome little camera -- is it the one with the vertical-traveling metal shutter? It only has four shutter speeds (25-50-100-150, and B) so it would have a degree of constraint. Plus, that Meritar lens (pre-set?) isn't the greatest. But then I guess the question is whether constraint is going to make you think more? Do more features make you think less?

I'm still sticking with the Ansco, but I could be swayed to the Exa.....

It does have the metal sector shutter that is incorporated into the reflex mirror. Odd little beast. The Meritar is preset, I ran a test roll through it early this summer and the results were acceptable IMO. I did find I "ran out" of shutter speeds. But that is part of the point of wanting to do this.

I'd love to use the Ansco because big 6x9 negs are great to work with, and the tonality and lack of grain are also excellent even if the lens is decidedly soft. But as some say, sharpness isn't everything. I'd still have to find a 6x9 holder, or settle for mail out processing - which is the biggest reason I'm undecided about it (that and a lack of a tripod socket).


I'd love to vote for the box camera but I'm using one myself and I know how restrictive it can be. Some Tri-x, a tripod, , a light meter a trigger cable and a selection of ND filters is just enough to get a photo from a stationary object ;-)

I've never handled the Argus so my vote goes for the Exa.

A light meter is a rather odd accessory for a camera that has the apertures fsmall and fsmaller, and a shutter set to 1/something.😀
 
The one that will teach you the most is the one that will do the least for you...
I wouldn't want the task of One Camera, One Year but if I were stranded on a island for a year with all the film, chemistry & darkroom equipment I would ever need and wanted to learn the most I would take the Ansco...
Once you learn what it can't do, you can go after what it can...you'll be limited in what you can shoot but in the right conditions you'll get images worth framing...
You gotta remember these cameras were a hot item at one time, people back then used to know how to use them...
 
this is going to be interesting.

my very first camera was an argus. i didn't like it, for so many reasons. i think the exa will be a more user-friendly tool.
 
How so? How is 'getting what you want' out of a camera the same as being good at photography. The important thing is still that 'what you want' is any good.

But if you cannot even make it do what you want, then you're even worse off than if you can make it do what you want, but what you want is no good. 😉

And logically, one has to come before the other if the results are to be good.
 
I you want a real challenge, use your Exa (WLF only) and for a year produce portrait-orientation photos only.

🙂
 
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