Cyriljay
Leica Like
It is some thing nice but in practice Cameras with integrated meters and separate light measuring meters are very accurate. If you invest on a high end camera and hoping to get a once in a life time photo then you don't want to miss it by hitting it around with all these stuff. But it is good to know some basic and having a knowledge will come in useful sometimes!
Reddot9
This Is Not Here
Handy! Thanks.
SonC
Established
Why hasn't anyone made an app for the iphone or adroid phones? This would be so f'ing sick to have in my pocket all the time.
http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/pocket-light-meter/id381698089?mt=8
airds
Well-known
Photo Tools for Android - FREE - with lots of other handy stuff.
https://market.android.com/details?id=be.hcpl.android.phototools
https://market.android.com/details?id=be.hcpl.android.phototools
Keith
The best camera is one that still works!
Five years on from starting this thread and I have to say I've had a lot of pleasure from the hundreds (?) of PMs/emails I've received asking for the jpegs for this chart ... and I'm still getting them quite regularly! 
I still have one in every camera bag and I still reference them a lot when I don't trust my memory (seems to be happening more!
) or my meter seems a bit squirrely.
Currently I've gone back to a meterless camera (widelux) and am amazed at just how accurate sunny sixteen actually is. Fred Parker, the originator of these charts, was very right when he suggested that your own judgement is far better than any meter once you learn to read the light situation correctly.

I still have one in every camera bag and I still reference them a lot when I don't trust my memory (seems to be happening more!
Currently I've gone back to a meterless camera (widelux) and am amazed at just how accurate sunny sixteen actually is. Fred Parker, the originator of these charts, was very right when he suggested that your own judgement is far better than any meter once you learn to read the light situation correctly.
misa2
Newbie
Thanks a million!
Cheers,
Misa
Cheers,
Misa
Sid836
Well-known
I use that a lot with my Oly 35RC and its dead (due to no battery, it is fully functional) lightmeter. It gives surprisingly good exposure readings (people think there is something wrong with me taking photos both with my phone and my camera
CCCPcamera
Established
Nice. I'll try this. I've been trying to get better at meterless exposures with my M2, and I am getting better. More often than not, however, I do overexpose by about a stop.
philipus
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iZoner is great because it has spot meter (with fully variable-size spot), hi-lo mode etc. It's also very accurate.
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/izoner/id489828927
For the basics, Expositor (also Lite version) offers a really good chart of Sunny 16 (down to EV-6 I think) with helpful descriptions of the various EVs which is good when one tries to memorise Sunny 16 in greater detail.
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/expositor/id315686714
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/izoner/id489828927
For the basics, Expositor (also Lite version) offers a really good chart of Sunny 16 (down to EV-6 I think) with helpful descriptions of the various EVs which is good when one tries to memorise Sunny 16 in greater detail.
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/expositor/id315686714
JRG
Well-known
I (long ago) made a condensed version of the chart, one that can be laminated to a 3x5 index card and carried in a shirt pocket:
http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=34642&page=4
It's still available; if interested, just PM me.
http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=34642&page=4
It's still available; if interested, just PM me.
David Hughes
David Hughes
Hi,
It's a bit older but how about this?
and inside, meaning pages 2 and 3
Feel free to tidy up the scan...
Regards, David
It's a bit older but how about this?

and inside, meaning pages 2 and 3

Feel free to tidy up the scan...
Regards, David
kshapero
South Florida Man
Like this chart a lot and I like the camera.Here's the chart that I've been using:
shortstop
Well-known
iZoner is great because it has spot meter (with fully variable-size spot), hi-lo mode etc. It's also very accurate. https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/izoner/id489828927 For the basics, Expositor (also Lite version) offers a really good chart of Sunny 16 (down to EV-6 I think) with helpful descriptions of the various EVs which is good when one tries to memorise Sunny 16 in greater detail. https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/expositor/id315686714
iZoner: excellent! It measures also low light: EV 1,5!!
hendriphile
Well-known
As long as we're posting links here, let me suggest this well-written and illustrated one on "Sunny 16":
http://www.dgrin.com/showthread.php?t=30235&highlight=Sunny+pathfinder
http://www.dgrin.com/showthread.php?t=30235&highlight=Sunny+pathfinder
Godfrey
somewhat colored
I prefer a light meter in my pocket then a chart.
Sometimes a light meter meters light but gives you little insight as to what exposure ought to be set. I've been using the Kodak Pocket Photo Guide since 1968 ... It's saved many an exposure that my meters would have gotten very wrong.
Guides and charts are a perfectly sensible exposure guide if well done.
G
Richard G
Veteran
That detailed EV based exposure chart looks to be Fred Parker's Ultimate Exposure Calculator (his punchline being the calculator is YOU!) Any link to it now leads to a dead end. Good you printed it out.
When I was using film with M2 and then a Rolleiflex and some other unmetered cameras I got used to the certainties of incident light metering with a handy Gossen Digipro F which I still use. The M6 meter is reflected light of course. I would carry the hand held meter even using that camera once I was no longer chasing small children with the M6, the reason I upgraded to a built in meter and added a 35mm lens. But the M6 meter is scarily good and I soon relearned to just trust the two red diodes. After all the M7 is not a camera you hear people getting bad exposures with. That's got to be a great camera for those autumn days with scattered clouds where the shot might require two stops more or less with every passing cloud.
The digitals are also good but I am second guessing a lot with a test shot and then setting manual, or just starting with manual seeing if I'm right. I found that with a 28mm lens or anything wider I would get underexposure on account of so much sky in the frame. And blowing the highlights with digital adds to over-exposure concerns, not relevant with colour negative film in particular.
The most important thing about managing without a meter, or shooting manual with a meter, is that it increases engagement, and makes you think and try harder which is the way to get better shots.
As noted above, I would not be planning to take the battery out of my M6.
When I was using film with M2 and then a Rolleiflex and some other unmetered cameras I got used to the certainties of incident light metering with a handy Gossen Digipro F which I still use. The M6 meter is reflected light of course. I would carry the hand held meter even using that camera once I was no longer chasing small children with the M6, the reason I upgraded to a built in meter and added a 35mm lens. But the M6 meter is scarily good and I soon relearned to just trust the two red diodes. After all the M7 is not a camera you hear people getting bad exposures with. That's got to be a great camera for those autumn days with scattered clouds where the shot might require two stops more or less with every passing cloud.
The digitals are also good but I am second guessing a lot with a test shot and then setting manual, or just starting with manual seeing if I'm right. I found that with a 28mm lens or anything wider I would get underexposure on account of so much sky in the frame. And blowing the highlights with digital adds to over-exposure concerns, not relevant with colour negative film in particular.
The most important thing about managing without a meter, or shooting manual with a meter, is that it increases engagement, and makes you think and try harder which is the way to get better shots.
As noted above, I would not be planning to take the battery out of my M6.
Richard G
Veteran
For many situations only something like Keith's extensive exposure guide will work, eg city monuments at night, or fireworks. The Apollo 8 crew had training with the Hasselblads and had the exposure charts in their heads. The earthrise in colour was 1/250s at f11.
NorpA
Established
I rarely use it, but I still have printed out this calculator, maybe it is useful to share the link, since still online.That detailed EV based exposure chart looks to be Fred Parker's Ultimate Exposure Calculator (his punchline being the calculator is YOU!) Any link to it now leads to a dead end. Good you printed it out.
Retro-Grouch
Veteran
The greatest advance in camera technology since dry plates is adjustable auto-bracketing. I'm lazy, so I love it! But will my Retro-Grouch card be revoked for saying that?
cboy
Well-known
One of the greatest photo resource for understanding exposure imo. Reading light/shadow is fundamental
And someone turned it into an app! Not the best but it does the job
Photo Exposure Calculator APK (Android App) - Free Download

Exposure-Mat - Free Light Meter
Exposure-Mat - The free downloadable Exposure Meter for photographers, Camera Collectors and Cinematographers
expomat.tripod.com
And someone turned it into an app! Not the best but it does the job
Photo Exposure Calculator APK (Android App) - Free Download

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