An interesting trend...

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The Pen gets displaced by the PC, the Luxury Pen takes off.

The Watch gets displaced by the Mobile Phone, the Luxury Watch takes off.

The Analog camera gets displaced by the digital and Leica becomes as popular as ever, everyone yearns for one, even though most have never used a rangefinder before.
 
Are you comparing leica with a Luxury Pen and a Luxury Watch? Expensive stuff that can do exactly the same as dirt cheap stuff? Interesting indeed
 
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Are you comparing leica with a Luxury Pen and a Luxury Watch? Expensive stuff that can do exactly the same as dirt cheap stuff? Interesting indeed
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What can a Leica do more than a dirt cheap Canon + dirt cheap FD lenses for example? Or take Olympus OM as comparison if you don't like Canon.
 
Except that I've been wearing a Omega since before digital watches were invented and using Leicas since before digital photography was invented -- though my fanciest pen is only a Parker, again dating from the 60s. It's stainless steel, quite trendy in those days.

Here's another interpretation of the same observed phenomenon: despite the general decline in real purchasing power of the working and lower-middle classes since about 1990, increasing income differentials have meant that the well-to-do can afford more luxuries and 'toys'. And more people work absurdly long hours to buy stuff -- stuff they seldom have time to enjoy because they're working too hard, in order to pay for it all.

The old left distinguishes between petty bourgeois (those hoisting themselves out of the proletariat), the bourgeois and bon bourgeois (the middle-middle classes), and the grand bourgeois (rich non-aristos -- there are of course very few aristos in the USA). When I was growing up, my father was a naval officer, pretty much bourgeois, but in those days we could afford some things that are regarded as the province of the bon bourgeois today.

Me? I'm bo-bo (bohemian-bourgeois) a new classification (?1990s) that enables you to live better on less money or worse on more money, depending on your choices.

Cheers,

R.
 
What Roger said, except the pen's a Mont Blanc now; that replaced the worn out Parker 61 (a present for passing the 11+ in 1963), but I'm still a pleb
 
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never underestimate the possibility that one day, film photography will become a fine arts activity and film will cost 10USD a roll....
 
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^ Define cheap. The link that I gave in my reply is a company called Pro-ject that manufactures good quality audio equipment. Their record players are especially well known. Entry level model costs around $150 and gets very good reviews for sound quality. There are other manufacturers in the same price range.
So no, record players are not dead, vinyl records are not dead. In fact for the past few years I've been buying vinyl only and I'm able to find ANY album I desire in that format.
 
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^ Define cheap. The link that I gave in my reply is a company called Pro-ject that manufactures good quality audio equipment. Their record players are especially well known. Entry level model costs around $150 and gets very good reviews for sound quality. There are other manufacturers in the same price range.
So no, record players are not dead, vinyl records are not dead. In fact for the past few years I've been buying vinyl only and I'm able to find ANY album I desire in that format.
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I consider 150 EUR cheap for a record player. The one you mentioned is available for around 200 EUR here. When I look at the Thorens lineup then I would find one for around 600 EUR although they also offer a 250 EUR player. I still have an old Dual record player that my father bought in the eighties and where a friend put a new magnet on. But that pro-ject stuff does not look too bad.
 
If you're really looking for something in low budget than I highly recommend Pro-ject Debut model. I have one myself, the first generation I believe. Check the reviews, they say very nice things about it, mostly because it doesn't have any bells/whistles, just a belt drive and on/off switch, so nothing to interfere with the sound.
I think I got mine for around 150, but that was a few years ago and I see they're into third generation now.

(sorry to hijack the thread).
 
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never underestimate the possibility that one day, film photography will become a fine arts activity and film will cost 10USD a roll....
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We're at 5 EUR already here. Some more wild swings in exchange rates and a return to inflation and we'll be there before you know it. I guess for now we have to settle for art, not yet fine art; but I think there are some other threads on that topic. :rolleyes:
 
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