Stu W
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I just became the owner of my first Barnack- a post war IIIc. Boy are they small! Anyway, I need a proper lens. Temporarily I purchased 2 Industar-61 l/d's from the fsu. Brand new! but not serviceable. Thanks to Kim Coxon's instructions, I overhauled them both which included cleaning, actually filing, sanding and lapping the internal parts, lubing and collimating. Thay are now smooth as silk. I still want the "proper" lens for the camera. What should I get? Thanks. Stu
That would be a 50/3.5 Elmar of course, or 50/2 Summitar, or both.
Stu W
Well-known
Thank you Rover. As I own tons of e39 accesories, is there an adapter for the Summitar to use e39 filters and hoods? Stu
LeicaTom
Watch that step!
Buy the good ole f3.5 50mm Elmar..........it was`nt Leica`s mainstay lens for almost 40 years for nothing, fun and compact, keeps the camera light as well andas for the results....that`s why the Leica "glows"
Good clean examples can be had for around $125
Tom
PS: Filters and stuff for the Elmar are always on that *Evilbay* auction site
Good clean examples can be had for around $125
Tom
PS: Filters and stuff for the Elmar are always on that *Evilbay* auction site
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beezerc15
shep
buy the 2.8 elmar its a good len and uses e39 filters.
john
john
Stu W
Well-known
Tom, I have the Elmar 50mm 3.5 in M mount and I love it. I'm sort of leaning that way. Stu
shadowfox
Darkroom printing lives
Stu, just a thought, if you already have an Elmar in M mount, wouldn't this be a good opportunity to try out the other lenses?
If I have a Leica LTM, I'd probably try out a Summar for that very distinct vintage look in the pictures.
If I have a Leica LTM, I'd probably try out a Summar for that very distinct vintage look in the pictures.
LeicaTom
Watch that step!
Yes, if you have an M mount Elmar, try a f2.0 50mm Summitar or a Summar.....
If you really want to get daring, look for an - HC f2.0 50mm Tokyo Nippon Kogaku (Nikon) in LTM
You can find them reasonable sometimes on the evilbay, I have a nice used one from Roland and it`s a little workhorse, compact, light and rigid - an all around great lens
Tom
If you really want to get daring, look for an - HC f2.0 50mm Tokyo Nippon Kogaku (Nikon) in LTM
You can find them reasonable sometimes on the evilbay, I have a nice used one from Roland and it`s a little workhorse, compact, light and rigid - an all around great lens
Tom
wolves3012
Veteran
Like you I've just bought my first Barnack too - also a post-war IIIC. Mine's about to get tested with an Industar 22 and Jupiters 8, 11 & 12. I'll be after an Elmar at some point though, I think.
alliv
Member
Just yesterday I did some test shots between Elmar and I-61 both at f2.8. My conclusion: both are good, very good and I cannot see the difference in rendering between them. I uploaded 2 images for you to compare at:
http://picasaweb.google.com/alx127/ElmarVsI61
My Elmar is quite hazy which explains why I-61 is sharper and has a bit more contrast but tonality is very similar at least for my eyes.
http://picasaweb.google.com/alx127/ElmarVsI61
My Elmar is quite hazy which explains why I-61 is sharper and has a bit more contrast but tonality is very similar at least for my eyes.
cmedin
Well-known
Everybody needs a Summar.
My III should arrive today or tomorrow and the Summar will be taken off the IIf and put on it... it's a lovely lens and I am very very pleased with the results. (The IIf will wear the 90/4 Elmar for now and the Summitar I just won on evilbay once Youxin CLA's it.)
LeicaTom
Watch that step!
cmedin said:Everybody needs a Summar.![]()
and........funny I haven`t used a Summar in all my years shooting with Leica`s
Bad Tom!
I just sold one (a 1937) off my 1945 "Half Race" IIIC and just worked out a deal for another tonight (a 1935 one) on a Chrome Leica III
*the camera and lens are already promised to someone*
I`ll finally keep a Summar when I can find a very late (1939) production version that`s clean and
coated
Tom
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Spider67
Well-known
Looks as if we need a separate forum for ....
Looks as if we need a separate forum for ....
...all of us who just got their first Barnack/IIIc as iquestions and solutions pop up all the time.
I tried the Industar 22 collapsible with good results. I just have to fetch my last roll of 400CN I made using the Serenar 50mm/1,8
My main issue was the low contrast rangefinder. Right now I use homemade red filter which works ok but as soon as possible I'll get a new beamsplitter.
Maybe I'll get a summar or even a summitar fro X-mas.
A great camera I am happy to ahve one now.
Keep it running those useful infos
Looks as if we need a separate forum for ....
...all of us who just got their first Barnack/IIIc as iquestions and solutions pop up all the time.
I tried the Industar 22 collapsible with good results. I just have to fetch my last roll of 400CN I made using the Serenar 50mm/1,8
My main issue was the low contrast rangefinder. Right now I use homemade red filter which works ok but as soon as possible I'll get a new beamsplitter.
Maybe I'll get a summar or even a summitar fro X-mas.
A great camera I am happy to ahve one now.
Keep it running those useful infos
shadowfox
Darkroom printing lives
alliv said:Just yesterday I did some test shots between Elmar and I-61 both at f2.8. My conclusion: both are good, very good and I cannot see the difference in rendering between them. I uploaded 2 images for you to compare at:
http://picasaweb.google.com/alx127/ElmarVsI61
My Elmar is quite hazy which explains why I-61 is sharper and has a bit more contrast but tonality is very similar at least for my eyes.
alliv, maybe it's my eyes deceiving me, but I saw the Elmar as being noticably sharper than the I-61. Especially when I focus on your boy's hairline, I can see the hair clumps detail better on the Elmar picture.
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