Another perfect bag quest

marcr1230

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I'm looking for a combination flight bag and camera walk around bag

Knapsacks - good for flights, hard to access or fall off the shoulder when walking ( using one strap)

Bare bones bag - great for a single camera - too small for flight bag

Messenger bag - good size, mine is really heavy empty - little or no dividers inside
Hard to open and take things out when wearing it cause the flap is big and you basically need to fold it all the way over to fish for stuff

In unpadded bags - I wrap my delicate stuff ( lenses and camera) which makes it good for travel but had to access while shooting

Padded bags tend to be bulky

I'm looking for "miracle bag" easy to use, small on the outside, large on the inside, light weight

Help me out
 
Why not have an acceptable shooting bag and place it inside an acceptable flight bag? Use each one in it's intended situation, problems solved!
 
Why not have an acceptable shooting bag and place it inside an acceptable flight bag? Use each one in it's intended situation, problems solved!

This is pretty much what I do. The only problem is when you're at a 'destination' and don't have someplace secure to leave the 'flight' bag. But once the shooting bag is out of the travel bag and filled with the needed equipment, the travel bag is usually a lot lighter and generally less of a hassle to carry.

My usual M-system shooting bag is a customized CourierWear messenger (company that made the BBB). While shooting I leave the messenger flap flipped back tucked down against me unless the weather is bad or I'm in a busy location. Travel bag is currently either a Filson Field Bag or a Tom Bihn Western Flyer backpack/carry-on in which I use a combo of Domke inserts and/or Tenba Tool Box 'packing cubes'. The Tenba cubes conveniently fit the Wester Flyer dimensions near perfectly.
 
The closet full of bags I have is a testament to my quest for the miracle bag that does not seem to exist.

My current bag of choice for the digital and sometimes film M system is a Domke F2. Also works with my Olympus E-M1 outfit, including the 12-40, 7-14 and 40-150mm f2.8 zooms. I'll also usually pack an empty, small Think Tank Retrospective 5 bag in my suitcase that I'll use if I want to tote a smaller outfit for a day and leave some stuff behind, if I am staying somewhere that leaving part of my outfit is something I can safely do, but the F2 hugs my side close enough, has enough space to hold what I want and yet be comfortable enough to carry all day.
 
In unpadded bags - I wrap my delicate stuff ( lenses and camera) which makes it good for travel but had to access while shooting

Instead of wrappers, use Domke inserts.

I use a Tortuga travel backpack as my single carry-on bag (I try to avoid checked luggage). In addition to clothes and other travel necessities, I stuff a packable backpack or a canvas bag (I use a Kakadu bag) along with Domke inserts, and make sure my camera gear are packed securely. When I get to my destination, I leave the Tortuga backpack in my hotel room.
 
Take two bags :
If flying, a carry on with laptop, ipad, spare clothes, cameras , film, chargers etc. - there is quite a bit of weight - so a backpack is the best option.
My town bag is unpadded and folds up to the size of a couple of t-shirts.
http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2480790&postcount=35

I took it to Israel and the UK loaded with a M-A and M9 ; stowing it in the backpack when flying and carrying it around alone when in town.
 
I'm going to separate my answer into two parts.

First, The best Messenger Bag. Billingham Hadley Pro. Lots of space. Can be used with or with dividers (I don't use dividers). Quick and easy to access. I used one heavily until it broke. And I bought another one.

Second, The best flight backpack. GoRuck. The best thing about this bag is adaptability. There is an attachment bag inside the bag for good organization. So it lets me have, (a) big backpack with tons of space (b) with space for a compact messenger bag {THe billingham doesn't compact tightly enough. I'm still looking for a good messenger that folds small. Perhaps a Lowepro Passport Sling III} (c) a system inside that allows you to attach smaller bags. (d) I have one bag that I use for my daily carry like bandaids, notebooks and pens and a small knife. (e) I have a small waterbottle attachment that attaches on the inside of the bag. I throw my camera in there. The downside is that the padding is not as great as a rigid bag; but because of the positioning of the bag, it is very secure.

it is small on the outside; and huge on the inside. LIke point (d) and (e) I attach little bags on the inside molle system. If I want to, I can take the small water bottle bag, and put it on my belt. So now I have a belt pack that has a camera, or spare lens. (f), I put a carabineer on the shoulder strap of the bag. If I'm in a crowded less secure space where I feel someone might have an opportunity to grab the strap and run - like the scene in "Full Metal Jacket," I will run carabineer through the shoulder strap of the camera. It keeps it secure. And if I need two hands free, I know the camera is secure.

(g) There is a laptop compartment on the back that I use for documents or maps.

It is highly adaptable. (h) The front of the bag can attach additional bags. On occasion, I've attached a full flash system with remote triggers, gels and clamps into a clamp and attached it on the outside. In an extreme case, I've been able to fit a complete 4x5 system, and its tripod, two lenses, instant back and 6 film holders in the back of this bag. I used the external pack, on the bag, to hold the instant back. I repeat I was able to load my tripod and 4x5 camera system in this bag!

(i) That being said, this bag can be really small. Loaded normally, without the external bag, is very discrete and very usable in a small light confined environment. I live in Hong Kong, rubbing shoulders on the public transit is very normal. With a large backpack, you are going to be bumping into someone all the time. And with my 4x5 camera gear in this bag, filled to the brim, it is no better than someone carrying a hiking pack into a train in a major city during rush hour. Packed normally, this Go Ruck is no more cumbersome than not having a bag.

It is not as luxurious as the Billingham, but it is so much more functional.
 
Well - for this coming trip (tonight - to Israel)
It's going to be the messenger bag as my flight bag
With the Fuji X100T in lens wrap padding - know in my family as "the camera burrito"
I'm debating whether to take a film camera as my record of
Using both on a trip is dismal and its a short trip
I might stuff the bare bones bag in my carryon w a rangefinder
Or not - I have a couple hrs to think on it

Thanks for your comments - I think
A 2 bag solution is prob the best ( one travel one daily )
 
joe--I think your ONLY solution is to buy one of every type and test them all. And then sell the unwanted ones to us at heavily discounted prices! 🙂

Paul
 
From experience, I was using a Tasmanian Tiger 32L Patrol Pack with the Hadley Pro for a 3 week trip around Japan (with 1 week on a motorcycle!) and it worked fine.
You could probably swap out the Patrol pack for something else around the same literage (maybe the Tom Bihn Guide's pack) but as long as it's big enough to accomodate the Hadley insert you should be good.
 
generally speaking, i travel by using the following system

patagonia blackhole messenger from a couple of years ago.
I take the camera insert out of a small bag, appx in size to a hadley small or pro.
I also pack the insert's camera bag in my larger suitcase and fill it with stuff so it takes up almost no room.

I carry on the messenger with essential camera stuff, travel documents, water, a small snack, toiletries, and a lightweight rain coat if needed. At my destination I repack a little to remove things from the messenger not needed. For the first day or full day outings I work from the messenger with everything I need for the day. For going out to dinner or short excursions, I sometimes remove the camera insert from the messenger and carry it in the smaller originating bag. best of both worlds
 
I just bought a really nice bag on ebay A&A ACAM-7100, its so well made and looks and feels really fine. I would never pay the asking price for a new one, but i think bags are pretty cheap to find in almost new condition for a fracture of the og price.
 
I’ve pondered this issue for a month’s trip to the US (California with a road trip to Austin, TX and back). So I'm taking two bags.

I’m packing my usual and trusty day camera bag (Domke F10) empty, in my suitcase, and packing all my gear M6TTL, M5 + three lenses and film together with a Nikon D90 with 18-200mm zoom in a ThinkTank Retrospective 7, which I will use as my flight bag.

Once in the US I will use the Domke and Leicas as my usual walk-around: the N90 can fend for itself without bag.
 
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