Keith
The best camera is one that still works!
So what are Plustek showing people at photokina? And are these negatives loaded into the holders the ones that aren't good enough?
Come to think of it if they came out of that Lubitel possibly not.
Come to think of it if they came out of that Lubitel possibly not.
sleepyhead
Well-known
Yes, seems strange not to have released any sample scans by this point in time.
Even if they are not head-to-head comparisons with another scanner.
It does make one wonder if "somethings up" (in a not good way) over at Plustek.
It's all very sad and frustrating for us film users.
Even if they are not head-to-head comparisons with another scanner.
It does make one wonder if "somethings up" (in a not good way) over at Plustek.
It's all very sad and frustrating for us film users.
JianL
Established
This is ridiculous.
You have kept us all waiting for months with promises that you would reveal all in Septemeber/ at Photokina; yet you can't even confirm the price or produce a sample scan!
Are you seriously telling us that nobody in your company has the ability to mount a film camera on a tripod and just shoot a scene? It needn't win photograph of the year award - we just want to see how the machine scans.
If it isn't ready then just say so.
I'm fast losing interest in this item.
Film will be obsolete by the time you release this item.
You have kept us all waiting for months with promises that you would reveal all in Septemeber/ at Photokina; yet you can't even confirm the price or produce a sample scan!
Are you seriously telling us that nobody in your company has the ability to mount a film camera on a tripod and just shoot a scene? It needn't win photograph of the year award - we just want to see how the machine scans.
If it isn't ready then just say so.
I'm fast losing interest in this item.
Film will be obsolete by the time you release this item.
I Love Film
Well-known
Maybe the Photokina sample is just a dummy. It's a plastic shell filled with crushed newspapers or something.
cabbiinc
Slightly Irregular
Is there nobody in the NY area that can loan a few sample negatives? Seems pretty simple if that's all is required.
MSUSpartan
Member
The outside of the scanner sure does look pretty though right?
Is there nobody from the company that is creating a film scanner have any negatives to scan? How do they know that the scanner they are developing is working as intended? Asking users for negatives so that they can present samples is a bit odd.
Is there nobody from the company that is creating a film scanner have any negatives to scan? How do they know that the scanner they are developing is working as intended? Asking users for negatives so that they can present samples is a bit odd.
kdemas
Enjoy Life.
I agree with a previous poster that this is starting to feel like vaporware. The clock is ticking on "affordable" film and this incredibly long ramp up time will definitely hurt the sales of this bad boy as the digital transition marches forward. Not to say people should switch or that it's even a good idea but with every passing day more hobbyists and some pro's make the move.
I too am very interested in this scanner but it needs to get out the door. If there's a delay due to performance issues then there has been a bad job done by the marketing department in setting expectations with potential customers. Silence and unexplained delays were mastered by Contax (Kyocera) and you can certainly see where that got them in spite of having some outstanding products.
Let's hope for some samples and/or straight talk soon about the true status of this product.
I too am very interested in this scanner but it needs to get out the door. If there's a delay due to performance issues then there has been a bad job done by the marketing department in setting expectations with potential customers. Silence and unexplained delays were mastered by Contax (Kyocera) and you can certainly see where that got them in spite of having some outstanding products.
Let's hope for some samples and/or straight talk soon about the true status of this product.
Keith
The best camera is one that still works!
I was going back through this thread and noticed that Mark did say that the release was predicted to be late September.
So I won't panic just yet then.
Post # 525:
So I won't panic just yet then.
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Bob Parsons
Established
The lack of sample files is certainly worrying, especially since Photokina is now under way.
A small amount of additional information if you haven't already seen it: http://www.slideshare.net/mdruziak/plustek-opticfilm-120-product-introduction
Bob.
A small amount of additional information if you haven't already seen it: http://www.slideshare.net/mdruziak/plustek-opticfilm-120-product-introduction
Bob.
shimokita
白黒
Not sure when we will see it in the local (Japan) market and when we do most likely it will only have the Japanese version of what ever software is bundled and no support in English.
English version of the software to be purchased separately as it's not included in the bundle seems to be the norm. License key issues... a whole other story...
Not complaining as MF photographers are patient by nature ;-), just commenting on global product release strategy in general.
Casey
English version of the software to be purchased separately as it's not included in the bundle seems to be the norm. License key issues... a whole other story...
Not complaining as MF photographers are patient by nature ;-), just commenting on global product release strategy in general.
Casey
George Bonanno
Well-known
Bing ! You've all been hoodwinked.
thegman
Veteran
I think there is a remarkable amount of hysteria about this, OK, so there are no sample files yet, no-one is making you buy it, so wait for samples if you want.
If you don't want to go on waiting, buy something else, for MF, a V700 will do just fine.
Nobody is being hoodwinked, sometimes in product development, things take longer than expected, it's a fact of life. Plustek are working to serve a small niche, they're not Sony, they don't have hundreds of millions in R&D money.
Schedules at most companies cannot be adjusted to meet the needs of RFF. Calm down, wait, it's just a scanner.
</rant>
If you don't want to go on waiting, buy something else, for MF, a V700 will do just fine.
Nobody is being hoodwinked, sometimes in product development, things take longer than expected, it's a fact of life. Plustek are working to serve a small niche, they're not Sony, they don't have hundreds of millions in R&D money.
Schedules at most companies cannot be adjusted to meet the needs of RFF. Calm down, wait, it's just a scanner.
</rant>
Keith
The best camera is one that still works!
You're right ... it is just a scanner.
But with Nikon baling out of the market some time ago it's the only real scanner on the horizon that may offer high quality scans for 135 film.
As DCSang would say ... "Time to cool our jets!"
k__43
Registered Film User
guys .. calm down.
I'm an electronic engineer and can tell you: the one most annoying and unhelpful thing is an demanding and pushing customer on an unfinished product. It mostly leads to buggy software/hardware.
That scanner will be so expensive that one can wait for another month or two. How many of you are actually on the edge to buy a 9000ED instead?
Also film will not disappear this year or the next. If you really need to get rid of money I'll share my paypal address.
One thing that makes me really really want that thing is the 120 format holder .. scanning 3 6x7 frames at once? yes I want that!!
I'm an electronic engineer and can tell you: the one most annoying and unhelpful thing is an demanding and pushing customer on an unfinished product. It mostly leads to buggy software/hardware.
That scanner will be so expensive that one can wait for another month or two. How many of you are actually on the edge to buy a 9000ED instead?
Also film will not disappear this year or the next. If you really need to get rid of money I'll share my paypal address.
One thing that makes me really really want that thing is the 120 format holder .. scanning 3 6x7 frames at once? yes I want that!!
Jamie123
Veteran
Fair enough, if it is unfinished. But the weird thing is that they say the product is finished, ready to go on sale, on display at a number of fairs, but somehow they still haven't had the chance to do any decent scans. If they're having any issues and the product really isn't ready yet they should just say so and people would stop asking for samples.
shimokita
白黒
"Plustek 120 High-End Scanner" (tentative name)
as **shown/reported** at CP+ Yokohama February 2011 (...Feb-2011)
http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/news/20110211_426498.html
no panic... it's a timing issue...
Casey
as **shown/reported** at CP+ Yokohama February 2011 (...Feb-2011)
http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/news/20110211_426498.html
no panic... it's a timing issue...
Casey
hanskerensky
Well-known
Lasersoft Imaging themselves seems present on the Plustek stand on the Photokina :
Hall 3.1
Plustek will present a real highlight at the photokona – its brand-new medium-format scanner OpticFilm 120. It is a slide and film scanner unmatched in its class regarding image output. The employees of Plustek and LaserSoft Imaging are looking forward to demonstrate this joint product to you.
http://www.silverfast.com/show/photokina2012/en.html
So anybody going there should be able to return home with a superscan
Hall 3.1
Plustek will present a real highlight at the photokona – its brand-new medium-format scanner OpticFilm 120. It is a slide and film scanner unmatched in its class regarding image output. The employees of Plustek and LaserSoft Imaging are looking forward to demonstrate this joint product to you.
http://www.silverfast.com/show/photokina2012/en.html
So anybody going there should be able to return home with a superscan
mdruziak
Established
Guys, lets be civil about this. I realize that people are disappointed that the scanner isn't available right now. No one is trying to deceive anyone. What would the benefit of that be?
Those of you that are or have been involved with manufacturing understand that there can be things as simple as the wrong color paint that cause delays. So launch timing isn't an exact science.
Regarding the images. We have a lot of good engineers on staff but not so many good photographers. The product manager for the OpticFiilm scanners is a good photographer, but she is busy getting this thing out the door. So what good would it be to post an out of focus photo of a wall or an unexposed photo of a lamp?
I do have decent negatives that I can scan but I was trying to get some involvement from you guys here if you were interested.
Those of you that are or have been involved with manufacturing understand that there can be things as simple as the wrong color paint that cause delays. So launch timing isn't an exact science.
Regarding the images. We have a lot of good engineers on staff but not so many good photographers. The product manager for the OpticFiilm scanners is a good photographer, but she is busy getting this thing out the door. So what good would it be to post an out of focus photo of a wall or an unexposed photo of a lamp?
I do have decent negatives that I can scan but I was trying to get some involvement from you guys here if you were interested.
Dan
Let's Sway
Something still makes no sense and lack of decent negatives isn't an explanation because at some point Plustek HAD to have actually scanned something just to see if the dang thing worked or not.
ernstk
Retro Renaissance
I find this reply slightly ludicrous, to be honest. What youre saying is that the product manager for the film scanner is so busy launching her film scanner that she has no time to adequately demonstrate how it actually scans film? Really?