RayPA
Ignore It (It'll go away)
SOPA and PIPA protests. Flickr allows you to darken your photos. For example, one of my photos darkened. Anyone else doing this, or if you're interested, now's your chance.
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Brian Legge
Veteran
Yes.
Here is one of the takes on the bill(s) that swayed me.
http://calitics.com/diary/14115/con...why-i-cant-support-the-stop-online-piracy-act
I did some reading about it elsewhere but many of the issues and risks presented here seem accurate. Most of the rebuttals I read were along the lines of 'the bill couldn't do that'. I'm sure there are inaccuracies - and I understand the problem they are trying to solve - but this seems like a nuke of a solution.
Here is one of the takes on the bill(s) that swayed me.
http://calitics.com/diary/14115/con...why-i-cant-support-the-stop-online-piracy-act
I did some reading about it elsewhere but many of the issues and risks presented here seem accurate. Most of the rebuttals I read were along the lines of 'the bill couldn't do that'. I'm sure there are inaccuracies - and I understand the problem they are trying to solve - but this seems like a nuke of a solution.
Jamie Pillers
Skeptic
Hi Ray,
Nice idea. Thanks for the reminder. However, I don't have the knowledge to black out photos. However I did send comments to all my Washington legislators, via a very nicely constructed gateway posted at Mike Johnston's TheOnlinePhotographer.com today.
Nice idea. Thanks for the reminder. However, I don't have the knowledge to black out photos. However I did send comments to all my Washington legislators, via a very nicely constructed gateway posted at Mike Johnston's TheOnlinePhotographer.com today.
Landshark
Well-known
craigslist also has a link to your elected folks in DC to oppose the bills.
f16sunshine
Moderator
khanacademy video below for those who are not sure what is going on.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzqMoOk9NWc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzqMoOk9NWc
jippiejee
Well-known
khanacademy video below for those who are not sure what is going on.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzqMoOk9NWc
That really showed me how creepy it is... thnx.
robert blu
quiet photographer
I have a ribbon "no censorhip" supplied by wordpress on my blog. I'm living in europe but the danger of similar laws is just around the corner, they are already discussing it.
robert
robert
andersju
Well-known
SOPA/PIPA are very frightening indeed. To borrow a line from Frank Zappa, "it's like treating dandruff with decapitation".
thirtyfivefifty
Noctilust survivor
Yep. All my photos are darkened. Not that I have much up for viewing.
Chris Bail
Regular Guy
I darkened my 10 most viewed on flickr.
Also I wrote my Congressman and Senators. Thanks to Wikipedia for providing the links to do so very easily.
Also I wrote my Congressman and Senators. Thanks to Wikipedia for providing the links to do so very easily.
chrisso
Established
Hmmm.
It would be nice to see everyone write hundreds of emails in support of artists, ordinary musicians, filmmakers and photographers who have their work taken without payment or permission.
SOPA wouldn't even be a consideration if so many people weren't so willing to break the law and rip off other ordinary working people.
Much of the commentary I've seen has been about billion dollar media corporations like Sony and Fox/News International, which usually and mysteriously fails to point the role of some of the most powerful and wealthy companies in America who are spending millions lobbying against any curbs on online piracy - namely Google, Yahoo, Facebook etc...
The aforementioned web corps hardly have the best record when it comes to ethical practice and respect for their users.
It would be nice to see everyone write hundreds of emails in support of artists, ordinary musicians, filmmakers and photographers who have their work taken without payment or permission.
SOPA wouldn't even be a consideration if so many people weren't so willing to break the law and rip off other ordinary working people.
Much of the commentary I've seen has been about billion dollar media corporations like Sony and Fox/News International, which usually and mysteriously fails to point the role of some of the most powerful and wealthy companies in America who are spending millions lobbying against any curbs on online piracy - namely Google, Yahoo, Facebook etc...
The aforementioned web corps hardly have the best record when it comes to ethical practice and respect for their users.
DominikDUK
Well-known
Chrisso if SOPA was only about copyright infrigment I would agree with you unfortunately SOPA can also be used to massively censor the net and that's the problem. Power corrupts and politicians are absolutely corrupt and to stay in power they will do absolutely everything. Censorship and torture used to be a thing of third world countries but since Bush, Blair and their various counterparts it became more and more fashionable even in so called democracies.
Dominik
Dominik
Trius
Waiting on Maitani
I've not frequented Twitter or FB today ... not sure how to darken m flickr account, but I hate that legislation, have phoned my congress-loser. (She's a regressive republican.l)
pachuco
El ****
cambolt
Green Spotted Nose Turtle
Does anyone actually support this legislation apart from stupid git politicians who probably have never used a computer before?
What gets me most is that the US is yet again interfering with the affairs of other countries. It would already be over the top to legislate this in the US alone, but to impose such a jurisdiction on other countries is going way, way too far. It is, after all the WORLD wide web, not just the US wide web. I don't have anything against the common American people, but American politicians have got to be the single most pig headed body of people I have ever seen.
What gets me most is that the US is yet again interfering with the affairs of other countries. It would already be over the top to legislate this in the US alone, but to impose such a jurisdiction on other countries is going way, way too far. It is, after all the WORLD wide web, not just the US wide web. I don't have anything against the common American people, but American politicians have got to be the single most pig headed body of people I have ever seen.
Steve M.
Veteran
Why all the gloom and doom? The US Prez has said, repeatedly, that he won't go for something like this. Not that he makes policy anyway. It's just a proposal. To tell you the truth, if the entire internet went down it wouldn't bother me at all. There are telephones, and catalogs, and libraries full of, remember those, books. We'd all get a LOT more work done w/o the infernal thing, and people would go back to communicating directly, instead of "virtually", which is to say poorly and ineffectively. I can put up any old image at home or in a coffeehouse or art gallery.
cambolt
Green Spotted Nose Turtle
Says Mr Steve with 1670 postsWhy all the gloom and doom? The US Prez has said, repeatedly, that he won't go for something like this. Not that he makes policy anyway. It's just a proposal. To tell you the truth, if the entire internet went down it wouldn't bother me at all. There are telephones, and catalogs, and libraries full of, remember those, books. We'd all get a LOT more work done w/o the infernal thing, and people would go back to communicating directly, instead of "virtually", which is to say poorly and ineffectively. I can put up any old image at home or in a coffeehouse or art gallery.
When Mr US president opens his mouth, it usually equates to nothing.
And I don't think the internet has killed communication at all. I don't think people meet for lunch or coffee etc any less now than we would have 15 years ago, if anything, I think it has made organising social gatherings, especially large ones, a lot easier. And there are those whose photos could make it into an art gallery. Most people, myself included have a body of work which is no where near that standard.
I don't think there's anything wrong with books, I am quite an avid reader, and I usually prefer a good non-fiction book to researching the topic on the net, as the information is usually a lot better organised, and is usually written by someone who actually knows what they are talking about; not some know it all like me. However the internet allows us to share our ideas and opinions on complicated stuff like film processing, for one. And here I am talking to you people in the US, Europe, all over the world from Australia.
huntjump
Well-known
I think, like most things in life, the internet is what you make of it. I find some days I am extremely productive precisely because I have the internet, or a smart phone, or gps or a whole host of other modern inventions. Alternatively, there are days where i'm a bit lazy and I burn a lot of time on the computer.
if we got rid of the internet, people would waste time in other ways... The only thing i'd concede is people do use their phones while eating or in the presence of social company TOO much, but again, its not everyone. not me at least. now a camera...i might have that out too much...if thats possible
oh and i forgot! yes ray, i am also participating. Wikipedia is our neighbor we have to!
if we got rid of the internet, people would waste time in other ways... The only thing i'd concede is people do use their phones while eating or in the presence of social company TOO much, but again, its not everyone. not me at least. now a camera...i might have that out too much...if thats possible
oh and i forgot! yes ray, i am also participating. Wikipedia is our neighbor we have to!
Al Patterson
Ferroequinologist
Does anyone actually support this legislation apart from stupid git politicians who probably have never used a computer before?
What gets me most is that the US is yet again interfering with the affairs of other countries. It would already be over the top to legislate this in the US alone, but to impose such a jurisdiction on other countries is going way, way too far. It is, after all the WORLD wide web, not just the US wide web. I don't have anything against the common American people, but American politicians have got to be the single most pig headed body of people I have ever seen.
Yes. The movie and recording industries, who have suffered from piracy. However, since their products are garbage that most people don't want to pay for, it is no wonder that piracy is rampant.
The problem I have with this is that it appears that instead of just going after the peer to peeer sites, these bills will seriously infringe on fair use via linking to copyrighted content.
I signed the Google petition, and sent complaints to my reps in DC.
chrismoret
RF-addict
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