Rafael
Mandlerian
sepiareverb said:Not the most pocketable 50 there is though.
Nope, that's my problem.
BillBingham2
Registered User
While I love my T, pocketable with a finder is a stretch. I would say an L with a CV 25/4 would be better, but we are talking 50s here. While I love the Fed-2, reliable they are not alway, compared to a Leica. You can pick up a great users IIIx (a or c) and have it CLAed, combine it with a 50/2 and you have a great pocket combo that will actually fit in your pocket. I love my M, but pocketable she is not. You're talking about millimeters here as being important, that's why I say L over T.
I have a IIIa, it's a fine camera, IIIc is a bit better, IMHO g or f are a bit much. I like simple pocket cameras.
B2 (;->
I have a IIIa, it's a fine camera, IIIc is a bit better, IMHO g or f are a bit much. I like simple pocket cameras.
B2 (;->
pvdhaar
Peter
visiondr
cyclic iconoclast
I have the current 50 mm Elmar-M and do carry it everywhere. As has been said before, it is a stellar little lens. Collapsed without the hood is is only 21.6 mm long and only 37.6 mm extended!
BTW, have you noticed how rangefinder shooters tend to argue about who has the smallest... while shooters of evil SLRs boast about who has the largest... just an observation on lenses, that is.
BTW, have you noticed how rangefinder shooters tend to argue about who has the smallest... while shooters of evil SLRs boast about who has the largest... just an observation on lenses, that is.
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Dralowid
Michael
An ltm Leica I weighs less than an Elmar M (lens only) but is really a little short of features (unless you include the hockey stick infinty lock).
Some sort of Leica III/a/b/c/f is very pocketable when equipped with an Elmar but still takes getting used to.
It's a shame the Ricoh GR1 etc never had a lens longer than 28mm
So you are back to an M with an Elmar M. I've used one for a few years now and hardly ever use another 50mm lens.
(and the others are in the cupboard)
Michael
Some sort of Leica III/a/b/c/f is very pocketable when equipped with an Elmar but still takes getting used to.
It's a shame the Ricoh GR1 etc never had a lens longer than 28mm
So you are back to an M with an Elmar M. I've used one for a few years now and hardly ever use another 50mm lens.
(and the others are in the cupboard)
Michael
hans voralberg
Veteran
My M3 and 40 rokkor is carry anywhere-able
except a bit heavy, any collapsible is IMO pocketable as well, i love my summar
wallace
Well-known
I had the same problem. And I found the solution for me:
Pentax MX with 45mm Rikenon Pancake lens. (same size like the
origninal Pentax 40mm, same quality). The same with the Me Super,
if you want automatic exposure. Fits easily into my pocket...
Thomas
Pentax MX with 45mm Rikenon Pancake lens. (same size like the
origninal Pentax 40mm, same quality). The same with the Me Super,
if you want automatic exposure. Fits easily into my pocket...
Thomas
Dralowid
Michael
Dralowid said:An ltm Leica I weighs less than an Elmar M (lens only) but is really a little short of features (unless you include the hockey stick infinty lock).
...by this I mean a current chrome Elmar M...
Michael
wallace
Well-known
made a mistake, name of lens is Revuenon, not Rikenon. Probably a Cosina lens...
Thomas
Thomas
kshapero
South Florida Man
I have a copy of a photo somewhere of HCB with a Leica dangling from his shoulder not neck. He was always ready for "bear".Pitxu said:I have to dissagree, HCB often said that he could't shoot with his camera around his neck, (or shoulder) only in his hand.
Also when asked which lens he used most he would reply "the one on the camera".
jsuominen
Well-known
Here is a photo of my Bessa T and Rollei-Sonnar 40mm/2.8 with hood and external 40mm viewfinder:
http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showpost.php?p=627266&postcount=67
Not very "pocketable". Without an external finder - for example when the lens is on my Rollei 35RF - and big hood, this combo is smaller.
http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showpost.php?p=627266&postcount=67
Not very "pocketable". Without an external finder - for example when the lens is on my Rollei 35RF - and big hood, this combo is smaller.
dacaccia
M246&X100V&GFX 50R
the Leica CL with C-2/40 is as small as a pocket camera.
Or you take a Leica CM with its great Summarit 2,4/40. But if you want exchangeable lenses the CL is the best idea. I mostly use it with Cron 50, but if you want a pocket format the 2/40 is better. You may also use a 35 (the 2/35 is very small) which covers quite exactly the whole viewfinder window.
The CL is fine with Luigi's handstrap, I prefer this solution, since the neckstrap is fastened at the small ends of the camera ...
Cheers,
dacaccia
Or you take a Leica CM with its great Summarit 2,4/40. But if you want exchangeable lenses the CL is the best idea. I mostly use it with Cron 50, but if you want a pocket format the 2/40 is better. You may also use a 35 (the 2/35 is very small) which covers quite exactly the whole viewfinder window.
The CL is fine with Luigi's handstrap, I prefer this solution, since the neckstrap is fastened at the small ends of the camera ...
Cheers,
dacaccia
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oscroft
Veteran
Wow Ron (visiondr), that's a beautiful shot.
visiondr
cyclic iconoclast
Thank you.
Michiel Fokkema
Michiel Fokkema
Rafael said:Thanks for all of the suggestions so far.
A CL with the 50/1.5 is a good idea. Is it easy to use a 50mm lens with the 40 framelines?
The 50/1.5 is a great little lens. But, even without the lens hood, it is still about 66% longer than the collapsed Elmar-M.
CL + 50/1.5 vs. M2 with collapsible 50... I guess it's time to talk to Santa.
The Cl doesn't le collapsible lenses. If you push it in too far it can damage the metering cell. But the original 40/2 is very small also.
Cheers,
Michiel Fokkema
BillBingham2
Registered User
Michiel Fokkema said:The Cl doesn't le collapsible lenses. If you push it in too far it can damage the metering cell. But the original 40/2 is very small also.
Cheers,
Michiel Fokkema
Putting a Rubber O-Ring on the lens (of the right size of course) will make the lens stick out a bit more, but will save the meter arm. The CL is a nice little camera.
B2 (;->
hans voralberg
Veteran
BillBingham2 said:Putting a Rubber O-Ring on the lens (of the right size of course) will make the lens stick out a bit more, but will save the meter arm. The CL is a nice little camera.
B2 (;->
Would that screw up focusing though ?
borismach
Established
My vote to CL and 40/2. Also second suggestion of collapsible 50 on CL, provided the meter arm is removed. I want to remove the arm too, as the meter doesn't work anyway.
I sometimes carry a M3 with 50 Elmar current version. This lens performs better than my 40 summicron-c...for my case. However, the set up is heavier and more bulky, as compared to the CL set-up.
bm
I sometimes carry a M3 with 50 Elmar current version. This lens performs better than my 40 summicron-c...for my case. However, the set up is heavier and more bulky, as compared to the CL set-up.
sanmich
Veteran
It may be a bit off-topic.
I long looked for the perfect camera to carry everywhere. The hexar AF was one, but I also looked for the 50mm angle.
I think the CL with coll. summicron might be it.
What really bugged me is to carry expensive stuff for days to shoot one or two pictures in a while. I think I found the right stuff for me:
Japanese 70's RFs!
The konica S2 is beautifully made and its lens seems to be superb.
The yashica GSN also
Pocketable... well they are not. but I throw them in my bag without any care and just pull them for shooting.
I long looked for the perfect camera to carry everywhere. The hexar AF was one, but I also looked for the 50mm angle.
I think the CL with coll. summicron might be it.
What really bugged me is to carry expensive stuff for days to shoot one or two pictures in a while. I think I found the right stuff for me:
Japanese 70's RFs!
The konica S2 is beautifully made and its lens seems to be superb.
The yashica GSN also
Pocketable... well they are not. but I throw them in my bag without any care and just pull them for shooting.
ferider
Veteran
My collapsible 50/2 Summicron worked on my CL. People who claim it doesn't haven't tried.
Sanmich has a point: a Canon P with collapsible Serenar is not expensive and for all
practical purposes will give you the same quality as most cheaper Leica combos, at half price or better.
Marc, you mention the Color Skopar in your first post. Why did you discard that as an option ?
Sanmich has a point: a Canon P with collapsible Serenar is not expensive and for all
practical purposes will give you the same quality as most cheaper Leica combos, at half price or better.
Marc, you mention the Color Skopar in your first post. Why did you discard that as an option ?
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