Anyone like any of the new film types?

[ptpdprinter]

Something odd about the term "re-born". Could mean just about anything. Intentionally vague, I'd say.

 

[sepiareverb]

Ah, so tweaked with age? Why is it so hard to believe that new films can be coated? Those who coat likely have very little work, so maybe a smaller run is worth their while?

 

[Faintandfuzzy]

It could be a new batch of cut and packaged old coating runs. Typical marketing weasel words. Not a lie but not the whole truth either.

JCH has been very clear that it is NOT old film simply recut...but a new batch made of an old formula. Obviously, Agfa is working with multiple companies on this.

 

[ptpdprinter]

So if it is a newly manufactured film from an old formula, why, of all formulas Agfa made, would he chose traffic light surveillance film? Doesn't make much sense.

 

[Ccoppola82]

The only one I’ve tried is Bergger in 35mm. I thought it was just OK. I DO want to try Ferrania however. Their IG photos they tag constantly seem to have a different look than other slowish films. Almost a “silver light” type look if you will. I’ve been finding that my developer and developer technique have a far greater impact on my images than film type. Then again I’m new to film, so take what I think with a grain of salt.

 

[AlexBG]

The only one I’ve tried is Bergger in 35mm. I thought it was just OK. I DO want to try Ferrania however. Their IG photos they tag constantly seem to have a different look than other slowish films. Almost a “silver light” type look if you will. I’ve been finding that my developer and developer technique have a far greater impact on my images than film type. Then again I’m new to film, so take what I think with a grain of salt.

I'm very sceptical about photos from film manufacturers when they show off a film. A friend bought a lot of lomo film and never got the results shown on their page. I look here and flickr rather than the manufacturers website.

 

[AlexBG]

From the comments here it would seem that the two to try are bergger pancro 400 which I think I will look into especially for winter, and the ferrania in the summer.

There seems to be a resurgence going on, whether it is old film or new I'm not fussed, but at the same time the main players are still the preferred such as portra, ektar, neopan etc.

One of my main benefits or limitations (depending on how you look at it) is that I use a local lab rather than develop at home so can't play around with development.

 

[ChrisLivsey]

I'm very sceptical about photos from film manufacturers when they show off a film. A friend bought a lot of lomo film and never got the results shown on their page. I look here and flickr rather than the manufacturers website.

Although early frames shown were from "in house" or chosen testers all the frames they have re-posted on Instagram, which was referenced, have been from photographers working independently they have included some of my shots and others from photographers I know. They seem to have been very open to mass collaboration on developers and times.
I do agree most manufacturers examples are a step away from reality but then although many wax lyrical about the Ektar, and I have seen some lovely work, for me it just doesn't work art all from multiple attempts.
I'm just trying the Bergger now, this with Beutler, far from an ideal choice of developer for this film but I had some left from the summer to use up:

 

[sepiareverb]

So if it is a newly manufactured film from an old formula, why, of all formulas Agfa made, would he chose surveillance film? Doesn't make much sense.

Isn’t the APX line of films already in use by someone?

 

[AlexBG]

Although early frames shown were from "in house" or chosen testers all the frames they have re-posted on Instagram, which was referenced, have been from photographers working independently they have included some of my shots and others from photographers I know. They seem to have been very open to mass collaboration on developers and times.
I do agree most manufacturers examples are a step away from reality but then although many wax lyrical about the Ektar, and I have seen some lovely work, for me it just doesn't work art all from multiple attempts.
I'm just trying the Bergger now, this with Beutler, far from an ideal choice of developer for this film but I had some left from the summer to use up:

I have been looking at shots from this film, this is one of few examples where the shadows don't go very dark. How's the grain?

 

[HHPhoto]

I understand that JCH StreetPan 400 film is a discontinued 35mm black-and-white surveillance film originally manufactured by AGFA that has been brought back. It is not leftover film stock nor re-spooled old stock... it's freshly made... available in 135 and now in 120 format.

No, it is definitely not freshly made.
This film - Agfa ASP 400 / Aviphot Pan 400 - was discontinued by Agfa many years ago. The discontinuation statement was published on the Agfa website for a very long time.

I've also asked several companies which are big customers of Agfa, and therefore have excellent contacts to them. And they all told me that Agfa has said that this 400 film had the last coating run in 2008, and since then no new coating was done anymore. The film is history.

Cheers, Jan

 

[HHPhoto]

Isn’t the APX line of films already in use by someone?

Current AgfaPhoto APX 100 and 400 are produced by Harman technolgy for Lupus Imaging, the user of the AgfaPhoto license for film and also the distributor of these films.
APX 100 is Kentmere 100.
APX 400 is Kentmere 400.
So again just re-packaging.

Cheers, Jan