dschal
Member
And less time on photograph forums!
Farside
Member
When I started in LF, it was via German 9x12s and one or two came with ancient Rollex backs. That was a hoot, finding they still worked fine (and lighttight) after 50, 60, 70 years.
I find them very handy to rapidly run some film through a body after messing with the lens, bellows, settings of the bed, registration, in fact any excuse at all, really.
I'm in the odd situation now of not having a rollfilm back for 4x5, although I've got an RH50 I mean to convert and run some 120 through. Great, that's another excuse to do it.
I find them very handy to rapidly run some film through a body after messing with the lens, bellows, settings of the bed, registration, in fact any excuse at all, really.
I'm in the odd situation now of not having a rollfilm back for 4x5, although I've got an RH50 I mean to convert and run some 120 through. Great, that's another excuse to do it.
kram
Well-known
Horseman 6x12, MPP 6x9, Linhof 6x7. Have not used the 6x7 yet. Easier to use a 6x7 camera. 6x12 if you can get them printed in colour, very nice.
GaryLH
Veteran
I have several. They are great. There are times i ust dont feel like developing sheet film. The most versatile type maybe the ones where they slip in like a sheet film holder. I like the ones like the graflex rh8 and 12 the best. I started to use them again (hadn't for a long time) after getting my first 9x12 plate camera. A 6x9 roll film back on a plate camera is quite nice..
Gary
Gary
Vickko
Veteran
You bet, and Polaroid back too. Makes the LF experience a much more familiar hand-held experience.
Farside
Member
Today, I just took delivery of a Universal Back to Rollex converter - a spacer which sits in the UB, held by the slide-locks and allows use of one of these old 6x9 rollfilm holders. Excellent; now I can use these on my Crown.
The converter was a Linhof part and is designed for their slightly shorter UB, so needs a slight Dremel touch, but no biggie.
The converter was a Linhof part and is designed for their slightly shorter UB, so needs a slight Dremel touch, but no biggie.
Mr_Flibble
In Tabulas Argenteas Refero
Looking forward to see your results with it.
I had to do some slight dremel work as well to put a graflok back on my Combat Graphic and my Miniature SG.
More recent photo's
Combat Graphic with Kodak Anastigmat lens, Kodak Tri-X in a Graphic 23 roll film holder
Anniversary Speed Graphic Kodak Ektar lens, Ilford FP4+ in Graphic 23 roll film holder
I had to do some slight dremel work as well to put a graflok back on my Combat Graphic and my Miniature SG.
More recent photo's

Combat Graphic with Kodak Anastigmat lens, Kodak Tri-X in a Graphic 23 roll film holder

Anniversary Speed Graphic Kodak Ektar lens, Ilford FP4+ in Graphic 23 roll film holder
menos
Veteran
Great shots there Rick! Do you us the standard Kallart rangefinder or some modification of it to focus these?
I have great respect for anyone who can shoot the Graphic with that RF in quick situations.
I have great respect for anyone who can shoot the Graphic with that RF in quick situations.
Mr_Flibble
In Tabulas Argenteas Refero
I used the Kallart rangefinder on my Speed Graphic for that shot, together with the small parallex VF on top for composition. I didn't quite nail the focus on the other 7 photos during that demonstration.
It did give me a new sense of respect for the sports photographers and war photographers who had to use one of these things in the thick of the action.
Another one from that roll.
The Combat Graphic lacks an RF, so you're stuck guessing the distance and have to hope the subject lies in the shallow DOF of the long lens.
I haven't quite figured out how to compose with Wire Frame sportsfinder yet.
I used it this last weekend, but only attempted 3 action photos. I didn't want to risk ruining too many images on the roll
It did give me a new sense of respect for the sports photographers and war photographers who had to use one of these things in the thick of the action.
Another one from that roll.

The Combat Graphic lacks an RF, so you're stuck guessing the distance and have to hope the subject lies in the shallow DOF of the long lens.
I haven't quite figured out how to compose with Wire Frame sportsfinder yet.
I used it this last weekend, but only attempted 3 action photos. I didn't want to risk ruining too many images on the roll
menos
Veteran
Very interesting to see these shots Rick, very well done!
Somebody knowledgable please correct me, but I suppose most action shots back in the days of 4x5 press cameras were either stopped down a lot in bright daylight or shot with flash, when possible or were shot wide open in available light with lot's of luck + skill and simply not needed to be tack sharp as todays internet people with digital expectations expect them to be.
Remember these shots were for newspaper use (hence there was no need to make the floppy mechanics of the Graphics to work as precisely as todays Linhofs).
Somebody knowledgable please correct me, but I suppose most action shots back in the days of 4x5 press cameras were either stopped down a lot in bright daylight or shot with flash, when possible or were shot wide open in available light with lot's of luck + skill and simply not needed to be tack sharp as todays internet people with digital expectations expect them to be.
Remember these shots were for newspaper use (hence there was no need to make the floppy mechanics of the Graphics to work as precisely as todays Linhofs).
Farside
Member
Very interesting to see these shots Rick, very well done!
Somebody knowledgable please correct me, but I suppose most action shots back in the days of 4x5 press cameras were either stopped down a lot in bright daylight or shot with flash, when possible or were shot wide open in available light with lot's of luck + skill and simply not needed to be tack sharp as todays internet people with digital expectations expect them to be.
Remember these shots were for newspaper use (hence there was no need to make the floppy mechanics of the Graphics to work as precisely as todays Linhofs).
Yeah, it was quite common to see wartime pics with long dof, so eliminating errors quite successfully. Rather a usable pic than one that didn't work out. It's something I've always done myself, reasoning the same outcome. Not so difficult now of course, but back then you could always crop in the darkroom but you couldn't go back and re-focus the pic.
Mr_Flibble
In Tabulas Argenteas Refero
I was told that Press photographers got around the focusing difficulties by using flashbulbs and a consistent f/stop, then shooting from a standard distance. Essentially a 4x5 point-and-shoot program.
menos
Veteran
In any case, I enjoy seeing these wide aperture 4x5 shots, be it roll film or the whole film.
It just looks marvellous, so keep em coming Rick ;-)
It just looks marvellous, so keep em coming Rick ;-)
Mr_Flibble
In Tabulas Argenteas Refero
Heh, alright....
Some Tri-X,
Fort Island IJmuiden, Combat Graphic
Some Tri-X,

Fort Island IJmuiden, Combat Graphic

Mr_Flibble
In Tabulas Argenteas Refero
menos
Veteran
Very nice!
The funny thing is, I never had any interest in guns and military topics, but I follow your photography for a while now and your shots always make me want to see more!
I really like the two shots above in post 34!
The funny thing is, I never had any interest in guns and military topics, but I follow your photography for a while now and your shots always make me want to see more!
I really like the two shots above in post 34!
Mr_Flibble
In Tabulas Argenteas Refero
Thanks Dirk,
I shot some Ektar and Tmax 100 with the combat graphic last weekend at Fort Veldhuis. Should have some more results by Saturday;
Speed Graphic, Ilford XP2
Pont De La Roque, Brittany
Plan Fougères, Brittany
I shot some Ektar and Tmax 100 with the combat graphic last weekend at Fort Veldhuis. Should have some more results by Saturday;
Speed Graphic, Ilford XP2

Pont De La Roque, Brittany

Plan Fougères, Brittany
BW400CN
Bessamatic forever!
Got a Rada Rollfilm back for my 9x12cm Voigtländer Avus that I will use occasionally. At the moment I´m on the hunt for cut film holder or cut film inserts.

Voigtländer Avus 9x12 / 1924 von LeBleuBeau auf Flickr

Voigtländer Avus 9x12 / 1924 von LeBleuBeau auf Flickr
Farside
Member
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Plan Fougères, Brittany
Excellent work.
I see the Yanks are stealing the local women, as usual
Mr_Flibble
In Tabulas Argenteas Refero
He's actually a pom in disguise 
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