rbelyell
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i am new to the xpan world and loving it so far. i note that leica R lenses can be easily adapted to xpan mount. since the xpan 30mm is priced out for me, i was wondering if anyone is using the R 28/2.8 elmarit on the xpan?
if so, i'd love to get your perspective and maybe even see some of your results!
thanks
tony
if so, i'd love to get your perspective and maybe even see some of your results!
thanks
tony
rbelyell
Well-known
really? not one person of all the xpan folk has ever used a leica R lens instead of the $3000 fuji 30mm?!
tony
tony
jkcampbell
Established
Image circle too small
Image circle too small
Most 35 format lens don't have a image circle large enough to cover the xpan format. Exceptions are shift lens that cast a large image circle. I use the Nikon 28mm shift lens on my xpan with decent results. jc
Image circle too small
Most 35 format lens don't have a image circle large enough to cover the xpan format. Exceptions are shift lens that cast a large image circle. I use the Nikon 28mm shift lens on my xpan with decent results. jc
rbelyell
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thanks jk. i understand your comment, but i remain very curious why there then exists this one and only adapter for the xpan. i would understand it better if either no adapters existed or if many different kinds existed. but why only leica r>xpan if it diesnt work correctly? makes me think perhaps the R series is an exception, at least at 35mm and wider...
tony
tony
veraikon
xpanner
There are at least two sources for adaptors for the xpan. The from flea bay "well known" source from China, and Zörkendörfer .
I use a Schneider PC 2.8/28mm "R" with an Zörken[dörfer] adaptor on my xpan. The image circle is 63mm - you have to cut off some mms. And you have to stop down to f8 -f11. As finder I use a 15mm Voigtländer with a self painted frame.
There are also the 35mm PC Curtagon for "R" . The image circle should be some mms narrower (60?) - but you don´t need a seperate finder. The full xpan finder = 35mm
I use a Schneider PC 2.8/28mm "R" with an Zörken[dörfer] adaptor on my xpan. The image circle is 63mm - you have to cut off some mms. And you have to stop down to f8 -f11. As finder I use a 15mm Voigtländer with a self painted frame.
There are also the 35mm PC Curtagon for "R" . The image circle should be some mms narrower (60?) - but you don´t need a seperate finder. The full xpan finder = 35mm
veraikon
xpanner
IMHO the R-> xpan is well known, because the Schneider PC 28mm was one of the best 28mm PC-lenses and it is wide spread. You can change the mount by yourself.
Perhaps this and the availability of the 35mm PC Curtagon is also a reason for the wide spreading.
I wouldn´t take a "normal" (non-PC) Leica lens for the xpan.
If you can wait (some weeks) I know some one who uses R lenses - perhaps I can "rent" a normal 28mm R Elmarit for a short test.
PS: you can use the R rear cap also on the xpan mount. It fits.
rbelyell
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thanks guys. if i may ask what may seem a stupid question, what is a 'PC' lens compared to a 'regular' R mount lens?
my peculiar interest is in using a 28mm R mount lens on the X. for me the difference between the native 45 and a non native 35 doesnt justify a multihundred dollar expenditure. but i personally could justify it for what would be the radically different perspective a 28 would yield. so 'yes' veraikon i would be very imterested in your elmarit test!
tony
my peculiar interest is in using a 28mm R mount lens on the X. for me the difference between the native 45 and a non native 35 doesnt justify a multihundred dollar expenditure. but i personally could justify it for what would be the radically different perspective a 28 would yield. so 'yes' veraikon i would be very imterested in your elmarit test!
tony
veraikon
xpanner
PC = perspective control - you can shift the lens up to 11mm (Schneider PC 28mm) because the lens has a greater immage circle (e.g. @ Schneider PC 63mm -like a medium format lens). A normal (non shift, non PC) has a image circle who just fit the 36mm of the 135 full format (24x36mm) SWAs (super wide angles) have some greater imagecircle because of their construction, but I doubt if a normal wide lens (like 28mm R-Elmarit) will have a comparable circle .