anyone want to help out this kid

[Sparrow]

Sparrow, I gave up trying to correct injustice years ago. Hopeless causes follow me home like lost little puppies.

I trust the world, and the puppy for that matter, are grateful

 

[FrankS]

Jon, why bring this up in relation to this thread? This kid is asking for a camera for doing nothing. Joe did not ask for a camera, it was an initiative of the membership of RFF to collect $ to by a camera as a gift of thanks for the work Joe had put into moderating RFF. Once Joe became aware of it, he even asked Jorge to cancel this effort.

Your post, along with your "gearheads are not into meaningful photography like real photographers" statement, and your posted list of qualified photographers, indicates to me that you have some kind of underlying issue with RFF. Why not discuss it openly?

You're a positive contributer to RFF Jon, especially with your weekly pics threads. So why these little digs and put downs? Lay it on the table Jon.

Jon: Who said that? Not me. Never.



Okay Jon, then it was "gearheads aren't into photography in a meaningful way."

Will you respond to the gist of my post?

 

[rpsawin]

Amazing....we start off with a kid asking for a camera and wind up with multiple insults and pissing matches.

Bob

 

[Anupam]

It's like Chinese whispers - you never know where you'll end up.

 

[ClaremontPhoto]

Okay Jon, then it was "gearheads aren't into photography in a meaningful way."

Will you respond to the gist of my post?

No I have never said that or anything like like that in any post, and no I don't want or need to reply to your post.

I'll be out taking photographs today.

 

[ClaremontPhoto]

FrankS:


I was out in the twilight this morning with a camera, and I got very angry with your recent posts as a I tried to relax and take some OK photos of guys going out hunting for hares.

Your behavior here is 'trolling'. I have never mocked your camera collection behavior, but you write untrue words that I have never said or implied.

I think FrankG is a bit nutty but he has you well sussed on his site.

Please keep your distance.

 

[FrankS]

Jon, you most certainly did post such words and sentiments.

http://rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39326&page=2&highlight=gearheads+collectors post#29
Joe:
You are a good guy doing a good job.
RFF caters for fondlers and for collectors. Dual audience.
You know that.
Stephen Gandy knows that also.
You also know that us photographers are not much into gear, and that that the collectors are not really into photography in a meaningful way. There is, however, a small crossover.
We all get along well together.
Why muddy the waters trying to make out out like we are in opposition? Especially given your privileged position on RFF.
Chill.
Enjoy the diversity.
________________
.
Jon


The only thing more sick and pathetic than FrankG's twisted internet behaviour, is that there are those that support it.

Now I know what your issue is with RFF.

 

[ClaremontPhoto]

FrankS:


I'll put my hands to that.

You got me bang to rights.

I hope that when we meet one day that you'll see me smile when I talk about you fondler types. My father is a camera fondler (and typewriters and lawnmowers also) so I know where you're coming from.

 

[FrankS]

Good-bye .

 

[Gabriel M.A.]

I understand, Frank.

You're accused of "trolling", and after all of that, not even an apology. If I did what you just did, I'd be told that I'm looking for a fight.

People who mock the "gearheads" are not called on it, and some prominent people have set the example. Those pointing out the flaws in their argument, accuse you of it in return, and brand you a troll.

::sigh::

 

[Kim Coxon]

OK guys. Lets keep away from the slanging matchs. I don't care if you consider yourself a gearhead, a fondler, a picture taker or anything else. The RFF rules apply equally to ALL members. If you have a problem with a post, please report the post. If you feel you must deal with the matter yourself, do it via PM and not in open forum. There is a wide diversity on the forum with many different views that are equally valid to the person who holds them. By all means argue the views as fiercely as you like but at the same time please respect the fact that other members may feel differently. You can hardly ask that others respect your view if you are not prepared to respect others.

Kim

 

[back alley]

this is an amazing place, really.
it has the ability to foster such care and human warmth and generosity while at the same time being able to generate such hard and cold and callous and mean comments.

are all forums like this?

i tell you what...let's start over - all of us who are embroiled in this mass of emotion and conflict.

here and now...
for those that feel that they have been unjustly accused of trolling...i apologize.
for those who have been accused of looking for a fight...i apologize.
for those who feel insulted by my comments about their comments...i apologize.
for those who have been upset, felt threatened, been banned and reinstated...i apologize.
for those who have suffered in any way from any actions taken here, by myself or others...i apologize.

let us cleanse, once and for all time, all the bitterness and bile and move on to a more peaceful time for each of us.

whadyasay?

joe

 

[nwcanonman]

Blessed be the Uniter.

You da Man, Joe.

 

[ClaremontPhoto]

are all forums like this?

I suspect that most are way nastier than the good folks in here.

I apologize for accusing FrankS of trolling.

 

[xayraa33]

gearhead, photographer, gearhead, photographer.......
who cares, as long as I am having fun.
good clean fun.

 

[xayraa33]

... come back Frank.