urban_alchemist
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I got burned a few years ago with the original 1.0 release of Aperture, and instead tied my horse to Lightroom. Last week, on buying a new computer I decided to give Aperture (now at version 2) another chance.
The migration was relatively painless (all keywords, though not adjustments or ratings, made it over in one piece). So, after a few days of mucking about...
... it's amazing. The whole program just seems to be far freer than Lightroom. The file structure is not rigid like Adobe's app - I can arrange as I want and easily manage between numerous HDs, backups and computers. The adjustments aren't as comprehensive, but the way they work seems to be far more logical - and you don't need to constantly shift between those damned 'panes'. RAW export seems much more natural-looking than Lightroom (no sign of those pinky-reds). I look forward to trying various plug-ins, but feel I should get to know the ropes first...
Overall, the UI seems to be less instantly 'obvious', but once you learn what is what, it opens up a level of flexibility that Lightroom doesn't at all allow.
Anyone had similar migration experiences?
The migration was relatively painless (all keywords, though not adjustments or ratings, made it over in one piece). So, after a few days of mucking about...
... it's amazing. The whole program just seems to be far freer than Lightroom. The file structure is not rigid like Adobe's app - I can arrange as I want and easily manage between numerous HDs, backups and computers. The adjustments aren't as comprehensive, but the way they work seems to be far more logical - and you don't need to constantly shift between those damned 'panes'. RAW export seems much more natural-looking than Lightroom (no sign of those pinky-reds). I look forward to trying various plug-ins, but feel I should get to know the ropes first...
Overall, the UI seems to be less instantly 'obvious', but once you learn what is what, it opens up a level of flexibility that Lightroom doesn't at all allow.
Anyone had similar migration experiences?
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swoop
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I switched to Aperture when I bought an iMac last summer. It's great. I too was hosed by Aperture in the beginning. At first it was wonderful. Then it got crappy. Bad vault files and images that were uneditable. Then I discovered it was because my Hard Drive was faulty and on the verge of death. Got it replaced and it works wonderfully again. Especially for image sorting. And it has all the editing features I need. As for plug ins. I have Nik Colour effects and silver effects. And they work great.
urban_alchemist
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One quick question: I've noticed that certain scanned negatives in Aperture are noticeably more grainy than in Lightroom. As they come from the same files and are JPEGs, I don't understand why this should be?
Fuji Pro400H scans especially have gone from smooth and creamy to grainy and (dare I say it?) nasty...
Any ideas?
Fuji Pro400H scans especially have gone from smooth and creamy to grainy and (dare I say it?) nasty...
Any ideas?
gavinlg
Veteran
Aperture kills lightroom in file organization and workflow, also lightroom nukes and smoothens any fine texture detail from my 5ds raw files compared to aperture.
Aperture is a way better program imo.
Aperture is a way better program imo.
john_s
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I just had a look for Aperture and found that it's Apple only. What would be the best alternative for a Windows user? (No, i'm not switching to Apple: it's just too hard at this stage).
I normally avoid digital stuff, but there are times when it's unavoidable.
I normally avoid digital stuff, but there are times when it's unavoidable.
pmu
Well-known
Well, Lightroom...
squirrel$$$bandit
Veteran
I love Lightroom and think the workflow is great. But one thing I envy is the availability of plugins for Aperture. Lightroom added plugin support for v2, but so far nobody has bothered. I would really like to be able to use Alien Skin Exposure.
urban_alchemist
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I think you'd be surprised. Girlfriend, dad and mum all switched in the last 12 months, and all very happy they did (I've been a mac man for 20 years - never owned a PC - so I can't comment about the process).
Ken Shipman
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I've been a PC guy for 20 years. On a whim I picked up a MacBook and Aperture a couple of years ago. Super easy transition. Now I use both for different purposes, but the Apple is by far the more intuitive, integrated, and effortless. Aperture v2 is a pleasure to use.
I think going the reverse direction - from Apple to PC - would not be an easy transition for most who grew up on the Apple. Windows is just so messy by comparison.
I think going the reverse direction - from Apple to PC - would not be an easy transition for most who grew up on the Apple. Windows is just so messy by comparison.
pmu
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http://www.niksoftware.com/viveza/en/entry.php?view=intro/viveza_announcement.shtml
If I understood correctly, NIK is adding LR2 support for their other softwares too. IMO Viveza is the ultimate thing for color pictures and silver efex THE software for converting to B&W.
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I have had an E-mail from Alien Skin stating that they are working on a LR plugin.
I too look very much forward to it, noise ninja would be nice too.
//J
pevelg
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I have been debating the apple/pc question for some time now. I managed to get Mac OS X working on my PC, just to test it. Though not perfect, the OS is so much better than XP and Vista in my opinion. I am going to be buying a Mac Pro tower sometime next month. As for aperture and Lightroom, I've only tried Lightroom thus far. I think lightroom 2.2 is pretty great as it is farely easy to edit the photos. It saves all my Raw files, unedited, by dated folders. It has one file that contains all the edits to the raw files, and I export images as jpg that I want to post. If I need a plugin, I load photoshop. I do plan to test aperature though with the trial version, as it seems many people here like it.
squirrel$$$bandit
Veteran
Yes, I'm aware Alien Skin is working on a LR version, and I'm glad Nik is as well! Maybe by the time I have some more dough, there will be some great options to choose from...
Overconfidence
Member
Uhhhm, you're doing something wrong then. You probably had some settings set to default (noise removal or something) on Lightroom causing this.
johannielscom
Snorting silver salts
Well, I've made my choice, I use the 13.3" Macbook and Aperture was too heavy for that when I bought it, so I turned to LR on the Macbook. And loving it.
Question: anyone aware of a thorough Film-and-Digital Workflow Thread on the forum? I'd like to get to a methodic approach to both scanned and digital shots in one workflow process, but cannot get my act together.
Question: anyone aware of a thorough Film-and-Digital Workflow Thread on the forum? I'd like to get to a methodic approach to both scanned and digital shots in one workflow process, but cannot get my act together.
pevelg
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and then you would use Linux, not windows.
kaiyen
local man of mystery
Um...this isn't even close to an LR vs. Aperture discussion. It's an ad for Aperture, almost.
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squirrel$$$bandit
Veteran
Start one!
johannielscom
Snorting silver salts
squirrel$$$bandit
Veteran
FWIW, I have all PC's, one for recording, one for photography and web stuff, one laptop for writing and work. The first two run XP flawlessly, the last runs Ubuntu flawlessly. The whole PC/Mac debate is idiotic. They all work fine. Everyone here could function fine, even in a Vista-only world.