Apple iPhone 4 is like a Leica

From the OP: Some of you just don't get it, I'm afraid

From the OP: Some of you just don't get it, I'm afraid

I posted the video of Steve Jobs and pointed out his reference to "a beautiful old Leica camera" as the "closest kin to the iPhone 4 in terms of beauty and precision."

Guys, that doesn't mean that we should compare an iPhone 4 to a Leica. What it means is that someone who is so passionate about his brainchild dared to compare it to the finest product he could think of...a product that is beautiful, precise, and functional....a Leica.

I'd say that is an incredible compliment to Leica, whether or not you love Apple, Steve Jobs, or any iPhone.

And by the way, both products are overpriced, and both have long waiting lines of ready buyers.
 
kkdanamatt said:
I posted the video of Steve Jobs and pointed out his reference to "a beautiful old Leica camera" as the "closest kin to the iPhone 4 in terms of beauty and precision."

Guys, that doesn't mean that we should compare an iPhone 4 to a Leica. What it means is that someone who is so passionate about his brainchild dared to compare it to the finest product he could think of...a product that is beautiful, precise, and functional....a Leica.

I'd say that is an incredible compliment to Leica, whether or not you love Apple, Steve Jobs, or any iPhone.

And by the way, both products are overpriced, and both have long waiting lines of ready buyers.
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The Apple haters can't help themselves. They NEED to trash talk so that they feel better with the (less cool) products they have! 😱
 
Thardy said:
Funny, a guy who works on Windows machines all day chooses a Mac for his personal computer.
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+1......

I deal with everything from Mainframes, AIX, Linux, Windows, Clustered, CITRIX, Networks and stuff all day long. I run Macs at home for the entire family. I found that my life got a lot easier when I moved my wife from her Win/Tel laptop to a Mac.

I've gone past the religious aspect of what is better. I will run what ever works best for me, be it Mac, Linux, AIX or iTouch or zSeries.

BTW, if Mr. Jobs ran Leica I think we could all afford an M9!

The place I would really like him to run is Nikon. Then we would see some real butt kicking products!

B2 (;->
 
BillBingham2 said:
+1......

I deal with everything from Mainframes, AIX, Linux, Windows, Clustered, CITRIX, Networks and stuff all day long. I run Macs at home for the entire family. I found that my life got a lot easier when I moved my wife from her Win/Tel laptop to a Mac.

I've gone past the religious aspect of what is better. I will run what ever works best for me, be it Mac, Linux, AIX or iTouch or zSeries.

BTW, if Mr. Jobs ran Leica I think we could all afford an M9!

The place I would really like him to run is Nikon. Then we would see some real butt kicking products!

B2 (;->
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I've worked it IT for 10 years and I have so much stress dealing with Winblows at work I always use Mac at home. I have for more than 5 years.
 
If you stick strictly to build quality then the analogy is apt, the iPhone is probably the epitome of consumer hardgoods manufacturing design and quality. Note how all the other cell phone companies attempt to copy it, just like how the PC companies mimic the Apple laptop and PC designs.
 
I wager that, within three years, Apple starts to make stunning cameras. And I don't just mean the ones on the iPhone. So hold on to your hats, I predict that Apple puts the camera industry on its ears.
 
Eric T said:
I wager that, within three years, Apple starts to make stunning cameras. And I don't just mean the ones on the iPhone. So hold on to your hats, I predict that Apple puts the camera industry on its ears.
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I could see them taking over the PnS market. Put a decent senor and the iPhone interface in a camera and you'd have a winning product. The software side would be better than anything else out there. You could zoom the lens with your fingers by pinching in and out on the LCD. It would be a great product for people after that sort of camera.
 
Yes, Frank, that was my point...

Yes, Frank, that was my point...

Frank Petronio said:
If you stick strictly to build quality then the analogy is apt, the iPhone is probably the epitome of consumer hardgoods manufacturing design and quality. Note how all the other cell phone companies attempt to copy it, just like how the PC companies mimic the Apple laptop and PC designs.
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....exactly. Steve Jobs thinks his iPhone 4 is so great that he dared to compare it to a Leica. Why does that irritate so many Leica folks? It's a huge compliment from a guy who hardly ever gives kudos to anyone.

It's not important whether or not you're a fan of Jobs or Apple. If Jobs had compared the quality and design of the new iPhone to a Porsche, would all the Porschephiles yell and scream?
 
Slightly off-original post, but I've got to say I've been very impressed with the IQ of my 3GS iPhone pics. When judged within the huge limitations of a tiny lens/sensor/etc, in my opinion whoever at Apple made the design decisions from hardware to image rendering/software settings for their little inbuilt camera did a stellar job. It's noticably better than similar resolution phone cameras I've seen.

And yes, Leica being cited as a benchmark to aspire to by one of the most successful modern gadget designers in the world is a nice accolade for Leica, but hardly worth getting too analytical about.
 
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I love how Steve Jobs can compare his iphone (which is mass-produced on an astronomical scale by Chinese workers who earn less per hour than Mexican fruit pickers) with Leica, or any other item which is produced by real craftsmen, and designed to last more than the length of a 2-year cellular phone contract.

The iphone 4 will not be anymore timeless than any of the previous phones. It will become obsolete in a year or two, after which it will be replaced with the iphone 5. I wonder what Jobs will compare his next iphone to, a Rolls Royce?

As for the new iphone, it is supposed to be improved so it doesn't drop call so often. Steve Jobs of course blamed this on ATT's network. But iphones suffer from the same problem here in Japan where the cell network is probably the most advanced in the world. One of my coworkers had to get rid of his iphone because of it's poor reception; it routinely dropped calls while he was speaking with clients, and inexcusable occurrence in Japan.

I'll keep my 2 year old Panasonic telephone. This phone doesn't come with the applications which are available with the iphone, but it has plenty of features; a 5.1 megapixel camera with a bright LED light for dark situations, built-in GPS, dictionary, and multi-band functions which allow it to work on all 2G, 3G, GSM and other networks. I like the built in dictionary which works with the camera. I can take pictures of Japanese/Chinese/English words or even traffic signs with the camera, and the phone can translate the works into English or Japanese. I like the built-in television tuner which allows me to watch television without having to receive broadcasts through the cellular network or wifi (which means that they are free). I like that I can keep my train pass and bank card information on an IC chip in my telephone, that way I can simply hold my phone next to a sensor on the bus, train, or in a store and make a payment without even having to take out my wallet. Perhaps the iphone 10 will have some of these same features.
 
I don't think you can compare an electronic wunderkind-of-the-week made on a factory line in Asia by underpaid, overworked workers throwing themselves off rooftops to a handcrafted German camera.

I'm currently using a Nokia N900. At least, it has a German lens (Tessar).
 
Have any of you ever been in Asia? Foxxcon employees are definitely paid a living wage. I wonder if the Portuguese workers are as well taken care of at Leica?
 
End of the day, he is still comparing his own product. He's selling it to you, the only people who can decide if it really is the 'Leica' of Cellphones are the consumers.

Apple is the god of marketing, because in truth, there are plenty of products out there that perform better than their Apple equivalents. This thread simply proves that some people are sold to the idea and culture of Apple's products.

Apple's user base is their success, the iPhone would be nothing if your everyday John Doe didn't make App after App for it. And now the market is in their grip because all those people aren't contributing elsewhere so other people must either join the Apple's clan or be left behind.

Perfect really.

Leica was never anything like this however.
 
Neare said:
End of the day, he is still comparing his own product. He's selling it to you, the only people who can decide if it really is the 'Leica' of Cellphones are the consumers.

Apple is the god of marketing, because in truth, there are plenty of products out there that perform better than their Apple equivalents. This thread simply proves that some people are sold to the idea and culture of Apple's products.

Apple's user base is their success, the iPhone would be nothing if your everyday John Doe didn't make App after App for it. And now the market is in their grip because all those people aren't contributing elsewhere so other people must either join the Apple's clan or be left behind.

Perfect really.

Leica was never anything like this however.
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Really, care to name a few?
 
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