nightfly
Well-known
Thinking that I'd like to pick one of these up but the one I was watching on eBay went for about $350. Is that about the going rate for these? Are they pretty uncommon or very desireable? I don't know too much about them except it would be nice to have the extra stop over a Canon or CV 3.5 and they look like neat little lenses.
Anyone have one they'd like to part with?
Anyone have one they'd like to part with?
raid
Dad Photographer
Yes, this is a reasonable rate for a 28mm/2.8 these days. They have a good reputation, but I have a feeling that they are more collectible. I sold mine a year ago.
Sonnar2
Well-known
Not so clear if it's really better than the 3.5/28mm. Oppinions are splitted.
According to Randal Hooper, the 3.5/28mm is the rarer lens, although it is cheaper noted...So my feel is this one is a bit overrated.
As a user, I would prefer the C/V 3.5/28 as a buy for 300 USD (assuming it is at least nearly as sharp as the C/V 4/25). The Canon 3.5/28 goes for 200 and is, at least from my oppinion, not such a bad lens. In fact I like it more than the results of the 2.8/35...
have a nice day, Frank
http://www.taunusreiter.de/Cameras/Canon_main.html
According to Randal Hooper, the 3.5/28mm is the rarer lens, although it is cheaper noted...So my feel is this one is a bit overrated.
As a user, I would prefer the C/V 3.5/28 as a buy for 300 USD (assuming it is at least nearly as sharp as the C/V 4/25). The Canon 3.5/28 goes for 200 and is, at least from my oppinion, not such a bad lens. In fact I like it more than the results of the 2.8/35...
have a nice day, Frank
http://www.taunusreiter.de/Cameras/Canon_main.html
raid
Dad Photographer
Sonnar2 said:Not so clear if it's really better than the 3.5/28mm. Oppinions are splitted.
According to Randal Hooper, the 3.5/28mm is the rarer lens, although it is cheaper noted...So my feel is this one is a bit overrated.
As a user, I would prefer the C/V 3.5/28 as a buy for 300 USD (assuming it is at least nearly as sharp as the C/V 4/25). The Canon 3.5/28 goes for 200 and is, at least from my oppinion, not such a bad lens. In fact I like it more than the results of the 2.8/35...
have a nice day, Frank
http://www.taunusreiter.de/Cameras/Canon_main.html
Frank: Is the 28mm/3.5 optically better or worse than the 28mm/2.8 based on Randal Hooper?
Sonnar2
Well-known
As far as I remember, he noted performance of the 2.8/28 "so la la" - but kept "schtum" about the 3.5/28...
raid
Dad Photographer
Sonnar2 said:As far as I remember, he noted performance of the 2.8/28 "so la la" - but kept "schtum" about the 3.5/28...
Maybe it is OK optically, but keeping quiet about its performance suggests otherwise.
raid
Dad Photographer
Take a look at what this seller is stating about this lens:
http://cgi.ebay.com/CANON-LEICA-RAN...ryZ30063QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.com/CANON-LEICA-RAN...ryZ30063QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
kbg32
neo-romanticist
raid amin said:Take a look at what this seller is stating about this lens:
http://cgi.ebay.com/CANON-LEICA-RAN...ryZ30063QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
It ain't worth the BIN price of $450. CV lens is better optically and in contrast.
JJW
Established
I've owned both the 28mm Canons. The f/3.5 is far better than the f/2.8.
That said, the current 28mm Voigtlanders... the f/1.9 Ultron and the f/3.5 Color Skopar, blast both Canons totally out of the water. They even outdo the early versions of the Leitz 28mm Elmarit.
The 28mm Canon f/2.8 owes its reputation to Garry Winogrand, who used it to shoot a lot of this street photographs of the late 1960s and early 1970s. As it turns out, I recently stumbled into a copy of "Public Relations", Garry's 1977 monograph, which contains pictures he shot in that time period. I am less impressed with their technical quality now. To be fair, Garry's work wasn't about technical excellence. The pictures were sharp enough to get the idea across.
If you are a shooter -- I recommend the Voigtlanders. Excellent value for the money. On the other hand, if you're collecting Canon screwmount lenses...
That said, the current 28mm Voigtlanders... the f/1.9 Ultron and the f/3.5 Color Skopar, blast both Canons totally out of the water. They even outdo the early versions of the Leitz 28mm Elmarit.
The 28mm Canon f/2.8 owes its reputation to Garry Winogrand, who used it to shoot a lot of this street photographs of the late 1960s and early 1970s. As it turns out, I recently stumbled into a copy of "Public Relations", Garry's 1977 monograph, which contains pictures he shot in that time period. I am less impressed with their technical quality now. To be fair, Garry's work wasn't about technical excellence. The pictures were sharp enough to get the idea across.
If you are a shooter -- I recommend the Voigtlanders. Excellent value for the money. On the other hand, if you're collecting Canon screwmount lenses...
raid
Dad Photographer
That's a fair assessment of this lens. I got one [in the mail] and I already have the Minolta Rokkor 28mm/2.8, so I may let one go very soon. I rarely use 28mm lenses, but I want to start doing so. I will compare the two 28mm lenses once I get the Canon lens.
kbg32
neo-romanticist
My 28 f3.5 Canon was quite "mushy". I bought it at the time because my Elmarit was too big under certain shooting "situations". I replaced the Canon with the CV. My Elmarit, that's another story. What a lens! I'll never let that go.
ghost
Well-known
the 28 f3.5 canon is much more common than the f2.8. who is randal hooper?
back alley
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iirc, the minolta 28 will be a 'better' lens than the canon 28/3.5.
i had both but the minolta was a few years ago.
the minolta has a more 'modern' look to it, in terms of sharpness and contrast.
joe
i had both but the minolta was a few years ago.
the minolta has a more 'modern' look to it, in terms of sharpness and contrast.
joe
raid
Dad Photographer
Maybe each lens will be for different uses then. The Minolta for a sharp look and the Canon for an oldtime look?
nightfly
Well-known
Since the Canon's aren't that cheap really (someone snagged that one off KEH), I think I'll just grab a new CV 28 3.5 from B and H or PhotoVillage or something. I'm a little concerned that the CV might be overly sharp to the point of harshness, but I can live with that since I'm sorta tired of hunting for deals. Just need a lens.
NIKON KIU
Did you say Nippon Kogaku
Come on you Canon RF fans, someone must have the Book:Are they pretty uncommon or very desireable?
"CANON RANGEFINDER CAMERAS 1933-68 by Peter Dechert" !!!?? NOT ME
Does Peter mention production numbers?
Kiu
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back alley
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that book is very light on lens info...
sf
Veteran
ferider said:KEH has a 3.5 up for sale, for less than US 200 if I remember correctly.
Roland.
KEH's prices are not always that accurate to the market value of a lens. I know that from a recent Zenzanon RF experience.
Graham Line
Well-known
The Skopar has high resolution, and it doesn't 'glow' like a '50s Summicron, but it's pretty nice.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/74312783@N00/38328181/in/set-821342/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/74312783@N00/38328181/in/set-821342/
raid
Dad Photographer
It seems to be a fact that the newer CV lenses are sharper in the edges and also in the center when wide open than older classic design lenses. The main advantage of the old design lenses lies in the "charm" of such lenses and of course the low contrast if someone wants such a look. Also, they keep their value better, and they can be resold later on without a loss.
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