Al Patterson
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If I had a frail ego, I'd just buy a larger lens...
Are you a "REAL" photographer?
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If I had a frail ego, I'd just buy a larger lens...
BillP
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Roger Hicks
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Did the 'real' photographer mention what sort of photography he did for a living?
This rather reminds me of the first time I visited the local camera club in the Isle of Thanet where I used to live. The local weddings-and-portraitrs man came along and was relentlessly patronizing. Because I was a guest, not a member, I said nothing. But he was a pompous little prat.
A while before that, in Gran Canaria, a fellow with a Leicaflex (R4 or some such) engaged me in conversation and asked what I was shooting and why. I explained it was for a book (I've forgotten which one). He had clocked the (non-Nikon) lens on my Nikon, and all but wailed, "But I thought professionals always used lenses from the same company as the camera..."
Cheers,
R.
This rather reminds me of the first time I visited the local camera club in the Isle of Thanet where I used to live. The local weddings-and-portraitrs man came along and was relentlessly patronizing. Because I was a guest, not a member, I said nothing. But he was a pompous little prat.
A while before that, in Gran Canaria, a fellow with a Leicaflex (R4 or some such) engaged me in conversation and asked what I was shooting and why. I explained it was for a book (I've forgotten which one). He had clocked the (non-Nikon) lens on my Nikon, and all but wailed, "But I thought professionals always used lenses from the same company as the camera..."
Cheers,
R.
Silva Lining
CanoHasseLeica
I get comments like : "Should get a digital mate" and "My phone's got a better camera than you" especially when I am using a large old camera such as the 'blad or Fuji GW690. I generally just smile, and say "Yeah", it's not nice to make fun of an ignoramus.
I generally can't think of anything witty or cutting to say back as I usually think of a great reposte several minutes or hours later...
Once though, I was driving my wife's car (she was a girl friend then) through Chelsea, four blokes in a Landrover discovery pulled up next to me at the lights and the passenger wound down his window and beckoned me to do the same, expecting to be asked for directions, I was slightly taken a back when in a thick welsh accent, he said...
"Oi, mate, how did you pull a bird driving a woman's car?"
Slightly taken-aback I waited for the guffaws to die down and said. "Can you fit four sheep in there or do you have to take turns?
To be fair they laughed even harder.....
I generally can't think of anything witty or cutting to say back as I usually think of a great reposte several minutes or hours later...
Once though, I was driving my wife's car (she was a girl friend then) through Chelsea, four blokes in a Landrover discovery pulled up next to me at the lights and the passenger wound down his window and beckoned me to do the same, expecting to be asked for directions, I was slightly taken a back when in a thick welsh accent, he said...
"Oi, mate, how did you pull a bird driving a woman's car?"
Slightly taken-aback I waited for the guffaws to die down and said. "Can you fit four sheep in there or do you have to take turns?
To be fair they laughed even harder.....
spiderfrank
just a dreamer
One time, two years ago, i was shooting with my Kiev60 6x6 camera, and there was a couple with a little digital point and shoot: the girl said to me "you should use one of these, it's smaller and faster", I replied something like "yes, but this camera can do better photos" 😎
Last year, I was in Roma, shooting with my kiev 2a, reading the light with a small Sekonic 208: a man asked me if i was a professional, because I was using a light meter (He didn't notice the camera was not digital...)
Last year, I was in Roma, shooting with my kiev 2a, reading the light with a small Sekonic 208: a man asked me if i was a professional, because I was using a light meter (He didn't notice the camera was not digital...)
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colyn
ישו משיח
This is the kind of remarks I usually get.
I got a brick of Velvia once from a former film user this way..
colyn
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Actually the point of my post was to poke fun at the person for referring to himself as a Pro...😛😛😛
Is this why some people use monster lens in a crowd???😀😀😀😀
colyn
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He shoots gay events...
JeffGreene
(@)^(@)
Stubborness or what?
Stubborness or what?
I was out today at Newlin Mills with my Rollei 6X6 and found myself surrounded by what appeared to be some kind of local photo club. Newlin Mills is about 35 miles away from my home. It's got a beatiful long mill run that I've been photographing for many years. The kids in this group seemed intrigued by my equipment and asked question after question. I just smiled at them and continued doing what I was doing, which involved trying to figure good zone placement in lighting that continued to change and between their continuing questions and the light shifting had to struggle not to snap at them. They all had a good laugh at the duffer with his "ancient film" equipment. "Are you for real?", they asked me? "You know", one said, "You don't need that light meter". "Just get yourself one of these, pointing at his digital SLR, it makes all the decisions for you, and you get great pictures. " I smiled at him, explained how I preferred to make those decisions myself, and continued doing what I was doing. He finally asked what I was spending so much time doing. I explained that I'd been making pictures of that mill run for at least 10 to 15 years, and still was not happy with the results. As it turned out, he was a photography student. He attempted to "educate" me and talked about the zone system and how proper placement would help me to achieve my goal. I then asked him politely to shut up, while I worked out my readings. His friends had wandered off while we chatted. He talked about his darkroom experience in his photography class at the local community college. We talked a little about N- and N+ zone system issues. I took my readings, made my notes for each exposure and made my three pictures. When I finished, he also asked me if I had anything against digital. I said no, but that I preferred my approach. He was amazed that I developed my own film and then scanned it. He couldn't understand why I would go to all the "trouble" I do to make pictures. He found his darkroom lab work "a drag". I guess I could have talked about development chemistry and its effects, and the excitement I still get waiting for the image to appear, but didn't bother. He couldn't understand delayed gratification. At his age, faster is always better. My oldest son is a photojournalist and has expressed many of the same sentiments. He's frustrated that I persist in working with film, but is really annoyed that the 20D he gave me is still sitting in the box in my office after three years. Anyway, just thought I'd share this.
Stubborness or what?
I was out today at Newlin Mills with my Rollei 6X6 and found myself surrounded by what appeared to be some kind of local photo club. Newlin Mills is about 35 miles away from my home. It's got a beatiful long mill run that I've been photographing for many years. The kids in this group seemed intrigued by my equipment and asked question after question. I just smiled at them and continued doing what I was doing, which involved trying to figure good zone placement in lighting that continued to change and between their continuing questions and the light shifting had to struggle not to snap at them. They all had a good laugh at the duffer with his "ancient film" equipment. "Are you for real?", they asked me? "You know", one said, "You don't need that light meter". "Just get yourself one of these, pointing at his digital SLR, it makes all the decisions for you, and you get great pictures. " I smiled at him, explained how I preferred to make those decisions myself, and continued doing what I was doing. He finally asked what I was spending so much time doing. I explained that I'd been making pictures of that mill run for at least 10 to 15 years, and still was not happy with the results. As it turned out, he was a photography student. He attempted to "educate" me and talked about the zone system and how proper placement would help me to achieve my goal. I then asked him politely to shut up, while I worked out my readings. His friends had wandered off while we chatted. He talked about his darkroom experience in his photography class at the local community college. We talked a little about N- and N+ zone system issues. I took my readings, made my notes for each exposure and made my three pictures. When I finished, he also asked me if I had anything against digital. I said no, but that I preferred my approach. He was amazed that I developed my own film and then scanned it. He couldn't understand why I would go to all the "trouble" I do to make pictures. He found his darkroom lab work "a drag". I guess I could have talked about development chemistry and its effects, and the excitement I still get waiting for the image to appear, but didn't bother. He couldn't understand delayed gratification. At his age, faster is always better. My oldest son is a photojournalist and has expressed many of the same sentiments. He's frustrated that I persist in working with film, but is really annoyed that the 20D he gave me is still sitting in the box in my office after three years. Anyway, just thought I'd share this.
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gavinlg
Veteran
I just thought of a great way to burn arrogant digital nazis if you're using an olympus OM camera.... Doesn't matter what they say or do, just give them a look through the viewfinder of that lovely OM and say "thats what a real viewfinder looks like!"
literiter
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Nh3
Well-known
I checked your flicker page and it seems you use a D300.
And then you call people digital Nazis?
gb hill
Veteran
Thats nice! I'll certainly keep trying at it. Surely one day I'll hit pay dirt. My biggest fantasy is I'm out taking photos with an old film camera and someone starts a conversation with me & says something like, I have this old camera in my closet and it's not doing me any good would you like to have it? I say Well sure! and it turns out to be a Leica. Reality is, that if something like that did happen, I would have to tell them it's worth & then I couldn't afford it. I guess I'm too much of a sucker because if I find $10.00 in a parking lot I try to find out who lost it.
CorreCaminos
CorreCaminos
myoptic3
Well-known
I don't think I am even a real person, much less a real photographer. You just gotta love the guy that said that though. A good laugh is hard to come by these days.
jan normandale
Film is the other way
jan normandale
Film is the other way
alan davus
Well-known
I don't really give a stuff what others think. I enjoy shooting film still and that's the end of that. Actually I was best man at my mates wedding two weeks ago. The pro was shooting Nikon DSLR's and at one stage I poked my nose in to take a few shots. When he noticed I was using an M6 he was all over me like a rash. As an aside, when my mate asked me to be his best man I jumped at the chance because the tradition Downunder is you get to sleep with the matron of honour. "Who's the matron of honour" I asked quietly?. It's Jo your wife. Great thanks cobber.
gavinlg
Veteran
Yes I use a DSLR... and your point is?
If you actually checked my flickr again you'd probably see that I also have pictures from all kinds of digital SLRs, Film SLRs and film rangefinders on there.
The difference between me and the person the original poster is referring to is that I don't go up to people using a film camera and express to them how outdated and silly I think they are. In fact plenty of times I am the person using the film camera harassed by the fellow thinking he can save me from the wrath and trouble of using film, and when I tell him that I in fact choose to use film often over my d300, I get the scoff - hence why I referred to them as digital nazis.
eg. if you're not using digital, you're not doing real photography.
Understand?
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gavinlg
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I'm glad someone else picked that up, thanks.