findwolfhard
Established
Hello!
Maybe this has been discussed elsewhere,- is there a significant distinction ("signature") between early "Aspherical" and later and current "Asph" ?
Or is it just a collector`s concern because of different production method?
best regards Wolfhard
Maybe this has been discussed elsewhere,- is there a significant distinction ("signature") between early "Aspherical" and later and current "Asph" ?
Or is it just a collector`s concern because of different production method?
best regards Wolfhard
pfoto
Well-known
It has been discussed here and it is claimed that the aspherical (with two ground & polished aspherical surfaces) is a "better" lens than the ASPH. Only 2000 were made. It is a collector's lens I suppose so is probably very expensive. The ASPH is a fantastic lens and sharp at 1.4, you only need a smaller aperture for DOF purposes.
dreamsandart
Well-known
Had an ASPH and now the aspherical. Can't say you will see any differences in real world photography. The lens seems a bit better with flare control. Both lenses are sharp with good contrast at 1.4 and good even in the close range without any noticeable light fall off, unlike the pre-ASPH version lens. Super lenses!
I feel the aspherical version is the better made lens, aperture mechanics use the older two pins instead of the now common 1, and 10 blades for a more round opening than the currant 9.
The 1st version aspherical does handle differently; a ridged focus ring to put my thumb on and smaller/softer tab for a finger which I really like together, a few mm shorter and 15grms lighter, and I much prefer the clip-on hood that goes with it rather than the newer locking hood of the ASPH version (which you can replace with a 28 Elmarit 4th version hood, basically the same as the 1st version's hood).
Is the aspherical version (if you can find one) worth the price compared to the ASPH? Well...
I feel the aspherical version is the better made lens, aperture mechanics use the older two pins instead of the now common 1, and 10 blades for a more round opening than the currant 9.
The 1st version aspherical does handle differently; a ridged focus ring to put my thumb on and smaller/softer tab for a finger which I really like together, a few mm shorter and 15grms lighter, and I much prefer the clip-on hood that goes with it rather than the newer locking hood of the ASPH version (which you can replace with a 28 Elmarit 4th version hood, basically the same as the 1st version's hood).
Is the aspherical version (if you can find one) worth the price compared to the ASPH? Well...
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dreamsandart
Well-known
BTW: Although 2000 of the 35 Summilux aspherical lenses were to be produced, its actual production was in the neighborhood of 700. Original cost was $4,000 back in 1988 which at the time made it way out of my hands no matter how much I wanted one. Lucky for me I got one for a few hundred dollar more than the ASPH I sold to replace it. At the price I see these going for now I still wonder if I should just sell it and buy an ASPH with some extra cash in my pocket. But its kind of fun having a piece of Leica history and this lens has gotten used to my fingers work 
findwolfhard
Established
Thank you for your detailed and very interesting reply, that`s the info I hoped for! Wish me luck, maybe I can get one!
bet regards Wolfhard
bet regards Wolfhard
findwolfhard
Established
Hello! I closed in on a German Ebay deal! Seems to be a nice price compared to recent results. Hope its is as described! Will let you all know!
Best regs Wolf
Best regs Wolf
pfoto
Well-known
Congratulations Wolf! Looking forward to the feedback. 
Kevin
Rainbow Bridge
findwolfhard said:Hello!
Maybe this has been discussed elsewhere,- is there a significant distinction ("signature") between early "Aspherical" and later and current "Asph" ?
Or is it just a collector`s concern because of different production method?
best regards Wolfhard
I have and use both lenses on different bodies and personally cannot see any difference in contrast or sharpness.
findwolfhard
Established
Ok! I believe 1st version will keep its value, when used cautiously!Kevin said:I have and use both lenses on different bodies and personally cannot see any difference in contrast or sharpness.
best regards Wolfhard
findwolfhard
Established
Kevin
Rainbow Bridge
And are you enjoying your new aspherical lens, Wolfhard?
I love mine ;-)
I love mine ;-)
awilder
Alan Wilder
How did you receive it without completing the deal?
findwolfhard
Established
Asphärical
Asphärical
Hello everyone!
Sorry for being late!
So far test shots came out very nice, just as expected. Of course the lens needs to be "explored"!
Well, "not yet completed" means that the final word has not been spoken. The description was basically correct, nice cosmetics, glass clean and unmarked. But I will have to deal with the seller again, because there is a certain matter, she hasn`t mentioned in description, I will ask my lawyer for help and so no details here.
I have already filed a complaint with Ebay.
Best regards Wolfhard

Asphärical
Hello everyone!
Sorry for being late!
So far test shots came out very nice, just as expected. Of course the lens needs to be "explored"!
Well, "not yet completed" means that the final word has not been spoken. The description was basically correct, nice cosmetics, glass clean and unmarked. But I will have to deal with the seller again, because there is a certain matter, she hasn`t mentioned in description, I will ask my lawyer for help and so no details here.
I have already filed a complaint with Ebay.
Best regards Wolfhard

Hacker
黑客
At the price I see these going for now I still wonder if I should just sell it and buy an ASPH with some extra cash in my pocket.
You should be trading it with me
Kevin
Rainbow Bridge
...But I will have to deal with the seller again, because there is a certain matter, she hasn`t mentioned in description, I will ask my lawyer for help and so no details here...
Would that matter involve the focus mechanism? Mine has a very slight glitch (for lack of a better word to describe the feeling) that happens when I focus at certain distances.
anoldsock
Established
I always thought Asph was short for Aspherical...am I missing something here?
furcafe
Veteran
ASPH is short for aspherical, but the 1st version was hand-ground to shape & had 2 aspherical surfaces, whereas the later (current) version is pressed into shape & has only 1 aspherical surface.
I always thought Asph was short for Aspherical...am I missing something here?
pfoto
Well-known
No you're not missing anything (well, maybe you areI always thought Asph was short for Aspherical...am I missing something here?
anoldsock
Established
Ahhh...confusing, yes. Thanks for clearing that up. I now see the light.
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