Attitude toward photographers in deep south

raid said:
I am talking about all counties in the USA and not just the cities. The SE is a regional high crime cluster. Florida is the Nr. 1 rape cluster in the contiguous USA. I have published this finding recently.

Raid
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Hopefully you work is a little more specific than "The SE is a regional high crime cluster". That's quite a generalization.
 
Alright thats good. This thread has been a great help, for the most part haha, thanks guys. My route that I posted certainly isn't final. I just plugged in the major cities as the points and map quest drew the line. I'll certainly be taking many side trips away from it. I have family in Georgia and Louisiana that I'll be staying with, hopefully that will give me more time to explore.

As a side note. Have any of you developed film in motels before? I won't be staying anywhere nicer than a super 8 most likely. I'm thinking about either developing on the road or waiting until I get to Denver where my grandparents live.
 
Bob Michaels said:
He is one of those multi generational products of the deep south that is just as likely to rape and kill you as suggest where you can get great BBQ.
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Brilliant!

As a central FL resident, you have surely heard the ol' "the further north you head in FL, the further south you get."
 
photomoof said:
Still trying to imagine what city is near Hartford and Albany. I define "near," as a short bike ride, since I don't own a car, but a 1/2 hour drive would qualify in my mind as near
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I use the long haul trucker's definition that anything within an 18 hour drive is "near".
 
Bob Michaels said:
Be very cautious. Many of us are quite irrational and erratic. Even the few who have not been clinically diagnosed as mentally unstable. Our constant inbreeding has produced some incredible banjo players yet it has also produced some really strange characters.

Maybe someday we will be able to get network and cable TV, have internet access, read newspapers, attend universities, and even fly other places on airplanes.

Be especially if you are deep in the Mississippi Delta next week. You may run across some guy carrying a Mamiya 7 shooting additional photos for an exhibit and lecture he is doing in eastern Cuba in May about the people and culture of the deep south and its similarity to basic Cuban culture. He is one of those multi generational products of the deep south that is just as likely to rape and kill you as suggest where you can get great BBQ.
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I thought all this would change when they stopped us from marrying our sisters.

Seriously if you're coming down here to photograph and exploit the poor, satay home and photograph the poverty in your town. Not to be rude but if the folks sense what you're up to you're not going to welcomed with open arms. I can say that the majority of us are sick of people coming in with that intention. This makes it difficult for every photographer doing a legitimate project. We're sick to death of the hillbilly image.
 
x-ray said:
I thought all this would change when they stopped us from marrying our sisters.

Seriously if you're coming down here to photograph and exploit the poor, satay home and photograph the poverty in your town. Not to be rude but if the folks sense what you're up to you're not going to welcomed with open arms. I can say that the majority of us are sick of people coming in with that intention. This makes it difficult for every photographer doing a legitimate project. We're sick to death of the hillbilly image.
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Like I stated in one of my previous posts, documenting poverty is not my objective on this trip. I am going to see what I see and think what I think. I am a compassionate person who treats people with respect in my interactions with them. Do I go for photographs without permission? Sure. Do I seek to have a little variety and flavor in my photographs? Definitely. I would say the primary mood I'm going for on this trip is nostalgia. I would say my mindset is that I'm searching for something I've never had, but I can remember the feeling of having it--like chasing a ghost. Those are the images I want to make. I'm not out to exploit anybody, and I'm saddened if that's how you interpret my project and the nature of photography in general.
 
gdi said:
Hopefully you work is a little more specific than "The SE is a regional high crime cluster". That's quite a generalization.
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Of course, things are very specific. County by county. Crime rates are associated with income levels. The NE has areas with very high crime rates too.
 
Thanks, will do

Honestly can't wait for the trip--gonna be a blast
 
Speaking of missionaries....JW?

Speaking of missionaries....JW?

MrFujicaman said:
Raid..

I think Chicago now has the highest murder rate....

And,yeah, I have no trespassing signs-that's to try and keep the ))*^$#@ missionaries from bothering me.

Frankly, most of the south views Florida as a suburb of New York.
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Two young well dressed men show up on a farmers porch. He answers the door and greets them. They explain they have some information for him that he may be interested in. They show him a couple of watchtower mags.

He invites them into the house, and guides them to the dining room table. He asks them if they would like some lemonade with ice in it. They indicate that would be nice.

He goes and gets the lemonade and sits down with them.

Now, what was this here message you wanted to share with me.

They look, confused at each other. "Well sir, we're not really sure what to do right now. We've never gotten this far before!!!"

May your trip be filled with friendly farmers... all the way.
 
goamules said:
Not even close. Top 10 murder cities in the USA in 2015:
1 East St. Louis, IL
2 Camden, NJ
3 Gary, IN
4 Chester, PA
5 Saginaw, MI
6 Flint, MI
7 Detroit, MI
8 Trenton, NJ
9 New Orleans, LA
10 Newark, NJ

Rates are the number of reported forcible rapes per 100,000 people.

1. Alaska - 79.7
2. South Dakota - 70.2
3. Michigan - 46.4
4. New Mexico - 45.9
5. Arkansas - 42.3
6. Oklahoma - 41.6
7. Colorado - 40.7
8. North Dakota 38.9
9. Nebraska - 38.3
10. Montana - 37.7
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How did Chicago and Baltimore miss this list?
 
jojoman2 said:
....I'm not out to exploit anybody, and I'm saddened if that's how you interpret my project and the nature of photography in general.
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I'm sure you're not setting out to exploit anyone. But let's face it, street photography is inherently exploitive. We pass through briefly, get our enjoyment and maybe later gain some recognition, fame, money - whatever - while our subjects get nothing from the experience. Is that a bad thing? I don't know. But it's certainly exploitive.

John
 
a kid innocently taking pictures of other people is some seriously small time exploitation, John. In my mind exploitation has to with the balance of power and wealth, who has it and who doesn't. Levis manufacturing their jeans in third world sweatshops where the workers don't earn a living wage--now that's some exploitation worth writing about.
 
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