Auto Focus, Film SLR Recommendations...

The F6 is an incredible camera, you can't go wrong with it. I had mine out yesterday and I just can't point out a real flaw from my perspective.

I also own and use the N1, which you asked about earlier. Excellent camera and terrific lenses, especially the 50/1.4, 85/1.4 and 100 macro. The 85/1.4 actually might be my favorite lens from anyone, ever. 24-85 is an excellent zoom as well. The auto focus is unique, and quite good, but it is no match for my F6 in that department, not even close. If you're a sports shooter and need strong tracking, the F6 is the way to go. Metering is good on the N1.

Enjoy whatever you end up with!

Kent
 
The F5 is a fantastic camera and can be bought cheap as chips if you keep your eyes open. I have one I bought new in 1998 (which cost about £1200 then) and one I bought last year for £180-something off Ebay. They're in similar cosmetic condition - virtually unmarked - and they are, as someone said, built like tanks. The meter is superb and autofocus is spot on and fast.

Another plus point is that Nikon UK still provide a full service for them and still seem to have plenty of spare parts: I had a new LCD fitted to one of mine last year.

I don't doubt that the F6 is also a superb camera but for me, any improvements it offers over the F5 are outweighed by the price.
 
I own and have owned for many years a Nikon N6006 which is the Rodney Dangerfield of the SLR world but its a fine camera that never let me down and it uses Nikon glass of all types. A big plus for me!
 
I managed, through good luck, to get an F5 for $350. At that price, why not? I love the camera, except that it's big and heavy, so you should check out the F100. Read Stephen's comments on the CameraQuest site for more info.
I have two autofocus lenses: 17-35mm f2.8, and 35-70mm f2.8. The first is current and expensive, but IMO well worth it. The second is discontinued, and goes for around $500 - maybe less if you're patient. The 35-70 is my most used lens on my D90 (that is what I bought it for), but it's ok on the F5 as well. Very nice lens, many don't like the zoom range. On a D90 it acts like a 52-105, which works better for me.
I also like manual focus lenses, so I bought a J screen to make using them on the F5 more accurate. It does that more effectively than I thought it would. I use manual focus lenses on the F5 as much as either of the zooms, but there's a huge fun factor with the 17-35.
The Zeiss ZF 35mm f1.4 lens is out and available. Manual focus, beautiful lens, and I'd like one. I had one on my F5 at the mid May Toronto Photo show and took four absolutely awful photos with it that show nothing about the lens. The venue was too dark. The lens costs around $1800 Cdn., so I won't be getting one soon.
When you're looking for lenses, be sure to check this site: http://www.naturfotograf.com/lens_surv.html
 
I remember thinking "This is just the coolest AF film camera" when I used Maxxum 7 with its very well designed battery grip.

The handling and design of the camera body is just top notch. I can use that camera efficiently just after one test roll. And I don't have complains regarding button placement or how-to-do-this-basic-stuff questions that I need to search online. It just works.

Two things made me sell that camera:
1. I gave up waiting for the Maxxum lenses that I want, they are either uncommon, or priced ridiculously, or both.
2. The buyer was willing to pay a lot more than I paid for the camera and the zoom lens, 24-120mm if I recall correctly.
 
I have a Nikon F4 and F5 , both from new . Would love to have a F6 : smaller , better display of the focussing points ( and illuminated ) . Also the fact that you can add some text between the frames is a nice feature imo .

Also the Canon 1v is nice without the battery-grip , if you have the lenses for it .

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you mentioned the Contax line, but not the AX. It focused by moving the film plane, so all lenses were OK for use. I never had one, so I can't tell you how fast, accurate, or reliable that camera was. I have had a Contax 139Q, and do have a 167mt. I loved the 139Q while it worked, and now love the 167. I have a 50mm f/1.4 that is sharp enough to shave with. Unfortunately I can tell you the AX is expensive when available. You might be better with the Nikon for price. I never heard anybody cut down Nikon glass.
 
I used a Canon EOS 1N for a while. Actually selling it because I just don't use it enough but it's a rock-solid camera. The EOS 3 is as well, but seeing as I only ever use the center AF and recompose, it doesn't do me any good to have 70,000 focus points.

You could get the 1N and then pick up a couple of Canon primes. Mine are in my signature and I love them all. Some others that I've owned but don't have still are the 28 f/1.8 (regret selling that one), 35 f/2 (not as good as the 1.4, but also a fraction of the price), 100 f/2 (alternative to the 85 if you need just a TAD more reach) and the 135 f/2 (amazing lens for the price, really).
 
If you want to shoot primes, get a Canon. If you absolutely need the max weatherproofing and drive speed, sure the 1-series is tops. But, unless you're shooting F1 races or in the Sahara, it's probably overkill. The EOS 3 is a very nice body. ECF is a fantastic feature, and puts it ahead of the EOS1 for me. I started with a 1n, and now have an EOS3.

I'm pretty objective, though. I've always liked Nikon film bodies, so i've had a bunch of them, including the F100 and F6. F100 first, then i moved 'up' to an F6, and then back to an F100. The 100 is just more practical. I don't have to worry about scuffing a $1300 body, i don't have to baby the LCD on the back panel.... The F100 is 95% of the F6, and that extra 5% i don't miss at all. It's not like the 100 is a compromise. It's already built to pro standards. The 6 is just that much more refined, but unless you had both in-hand at the same time, you wouldn't find a reason to have an F6.

I used to have the Contax N1. It's been quite a while, so my recollection is sketchy. I didn't have it long, though. Not because i didn't like it, but probably because that was a stage at which i had too many systems, and couldn't justify keeping the N while i already had an EOS system.

The N1 is rather large. The lenses are also large.... Oh, i just remembered - i got out of the Contax AF cameras because they never had plans to release a 28 or 35mm prime. That was sorta essential for me. I believe they always rationalized it by saying the zoom performed better than other manufacturers' primes, but i didn't care for the size and weight, nor speed.

N1 AF speed is not up to EOS/Nikon standards. It's not bad, but i would want a Canon or Nikon if AF speed and frame rate were important. I had two lenses- the 50/1.4 and 85/1.4. Both were quite nice, but again - not better than the Canon 50/1.4 and 85L i had at the time.

So.... If you are dedicated to primes, Canon's 85s (both of them) are better than Nikon's. Canon's 50s - all three - are better than Nikon's, although i just got the Nikon 50/1.8G for my F100/FE2 and haven't seen test film yet. Canon offers the fantastic 35L, and very good 35/2. They have a 28/1.8 and 28/2.8. They have a 24L and a 24/2.8.... Nikon doesn't have that range, and what they do offer doesn't perform as well with regard to bokeh - my two cents.

Not sure, at all, why you would question the Canon glass. From what i've read, Nikon's zooms may be better in the wide range, but Canon's primes have always been tops. And, if you like the longer lenses, they have a fantastic 100 Macro, and legendary 135L. Canon just does bokeh MUCH better. That's why 95% of fashion shooters use them....

Optionally, in the 50 and 85mm ranges if bokeh is important, Sigma makes very nice lenses. I've had the 50/1.4 and will probably buy another, and they work with Nikon and Canon. The only caveat is that the Sigma 50 i had (for Canon) performed best only when i could dial in AF compensation on my 5DMkII. When i bought one for the Nikon F100, it was softer than a chocolate teapot. I had to return it. I don't think i would chance one on a film body, unless i knew a technician who could calibrate it.
 
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I have both the F4 & F5 and love them...I hear that the F6 is even better but it cost a bit still...
The F5 would be my choice if I were to buy another body...I love the B&W negs it spits out...they are so well exposed and easy to print...
I read that most of you are complaining about the heft of the F5...it may be on the heavy side but come on...maybe you all need to workout a bit if you're complaining that its too heavy to shoot with...get rid of your plastic wanna-be's and get a real camera...

The only down side to it would be that it doesn't mount the older Non-Ai lenses as is BUT it can be modified to...
All the Pro F series Nikons have removable Finders and you can get the WLF for all of them...
And with the MF-28 on the F5 you can place info between the frames as well as in the frame...along with so many other functions...I print my name and (C)2011 between each frame...

Autofocus is fast and so much better than the F4 when it comes to locking on and not hunting...not sure how the F6 rates but I'm sure it's the same or better...
 
I don't mind the F5's weight; the size means I sometimes have to more carefully organize packing it and... How many lenses can I take along? I'm not so big on taking just one lens, though I've tried it. Sometimes the F5 size and weight is a good thing: the Zeiss ZF 35mm f1.4 is not a petite lens, but it feels and looks like it was made to be mounted on an F5. If I won a lottery I'd buy one and experiment with it as a sole lens for a while. I should also mention that all the ZF.2 lenses are chipped.
 
Once again, thanks so much you lot! There I was, happy that I had just secured myself an F100 to replace my manual focus F, F2's and F3 and then I start thinking about F5's.
I'd always thought that it was too big and heavy. I'll let you know as one is in the post to me! aaaaarghhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!
must sell some manual bodies now.
 
As far as I know the only autofocus zeiss lenses (for 135 format) are those for the sony alpha and there there are only two primes. 85/1.4 and a 24/2. There may be a new 35/1.4 in future but that is uncertain.

All the Contax N autofocus lenses were made by Zeiss - four primes (50/1.4, 85/1.4, 100/2.8 Macro, and 400/4), and five zooms (17-35/f2.8, 24-85/f3.5-4.5, 28-80/f3.5-5.6, 70-200/f3.5-4.5, and 70-300/f4-5.6).

They're basically all very nice lenses mechanically and optically.

Also they can be converted to Canon EF mount with full autofocus and electronic aperture operation, so basically you get a fully working set of Zeiss autofocus lenses for Canon. Together with the coveted status of Zeiss lenses in general, this has kept prices fairly high; a converted Contax N 17-35/f2.8 for EOS mount will sell for more than its Canon or Nikon equivalent.
 
I had an F6 (sold it for a Leica M6 to enjoy rangefinder photography).

The F6 is awesome...it was my favorite camera. The my D700 couldn't really compare, except when it came time to develop and scan 😉

The F6 was bullet-proof, fast fast fast, and the metering was better than any digital I've ever used. AND...it was as quiet as my M6!

I have since crossed the fence and invested in Canon...5DmkII and some primes. The primes are fantastic, BTW. I think if I felt the need for a film SLR again, I'd go with an EOS-1V for compatibility. I wish the -1V were as inexpensive as a used F100 (which I wouldn't hesitate buying if I still had Nikon glass).
 
Nikon F100, or F90x (F90n maybe for you).
Built for last, nice af, expecially the f100.
The F100 has the two dial commands that allow you to use even the N series or G series Nikkors.
The F100 is sealed against moisture and dust.
I had 2 of them and I sold them because now I use d300 most of the time. For the rest I kept my F90x and an indistructible FM2n 🙂
Regards. D.
 
Once again, thanks so much you lot! There I was, happy that I had just secured myself an F100 to replace my manual focus F, F2's and F3 and then I start thinking about F5's.
I'd always thought that it was too big and heavy. I'll let you know as one is in the post to me! aaaaarghhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!
must sell some manual bodies now.

You already have the F, F2 and F3, I think you should just go the while nine yards and find yourself the next three: F4, F5, and F6 :angel:😀

Personally, I stopped my AF Nikon F series GAS at the F4s. It's a great body to use with my legacy manual focus Nikkor lenses when I get the urge. Of course, I use the F4s for AF too.

--Warren
 
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