T_om
Well-known
I was hoping for a 'never lost a man yet' developer that keeps a long time...
This one is easy. Diafine.
Tom
bmattock
Veteran
T_om said:This one is easy. Diafine.
Tom
And I've got some, but have never mixed or used it. However, the tech sheet seems to show the films I have all used at double or triple their advertised ISO - I shot them all at EI=ISO. No idea what the times would be!
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wlewisiii
Guest
bmattock said:And I've got some, but have never mixed or used it. However, the tech sheet seems to show the films I have all used at double or triple their advertised ISO - I shot them all at EI=ISO. No idea what the times would be!
The same. There isn't any difference for temperature, EI or anything. You pour in A, let it sit for at least 3 minutes, pour it back into it's jug, pour in B and let it be there for at least 3 minutes with gentle agitation at start, middle and end. Pour it back into it's jug. Rinse, fix, wash, dry & scan.
That's all there is to it.
William
bmattock
Veteran
wlewisiii said:The same. There isn't any difference for temperature, EI or anything. You pour in A, let it sit for at least 3 minutes, pour it back into it's jug, pour in B and let it be there for at least 3 minutes with gentle agitation at start, middle and end. Pour it back into it's jug. Rinse, fix, wash, dry & scan.
That's all there is to it.
William
But William...how does it...um...know? Same dev time for any ISO? This violates the laws of the universe! It's insane!
Best Regards,
Bill Mattocks
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wlewisiii
Guest
What happens, IIUC, is that the emuslion absorbs the "right amount" of the chemicals in A by how much exposure has sensitized the emulsion. Then when B is on, it will work only on the amount of A that is in the emulsion and then stop working. That happens in 3 minutes or so.
William
William
K
Kin Lau
Guest
Here's a warning. If using Diafine and _scanning_, it's best to shot at the recommended EI, or even underexpose a bit. Most scanners have difficulty with very dense negs whereas I have some decent scans off some horribly underexposed negs. But keep in mind that Diafine doesn't always recommend an EI or 2x or 3x the box speed. For example, the recommendation for APX400 is only iso 500, so shooting at box speed might still be doable.
Otherwise, Diafine's great... I've done Tri-X at 1250 & APX100 at 100 in the same tank at the same time. A little harder to scan APX100, but thats only that film, can't vouch for the others.
Otherwise, Diafine's great... I've done Tri-X at 1250 & APX100 at 100 in the same tank at the same time. A little harder to scan APX100, but thats only that film, can't vouch for the others.
bmattock
Veteran
Kin Lau said:Here's a warning. If using Diafine and _scanning_, it's best to shot at the recommended EI, or even underexpose a bit. Most scanners have difficulty with very dense negs whereas I have some decent scans off some horribly underexposed negs. But keep in mind that Diafine doesn't always recommend an EI or 2x or 3x the box speed. For example, the recommendation for APX400 is only iso 500, so shooting at box speed might still be doable.
Otherwise, Diafine's great... I've done Tri-X at 1250 & APX100 at 100 in the same tank at the same time. A little harder to scan APX100, but thats only that film, can't vouch for the others.
Hmmm. You guys! Now I dunno what to do! I done ordered the D76 AND the HC-110 from Freestyle, along with a jar of no-name non-hardening fixer. So I gotta wait for the fixer anyway, and it's all coming via UPS ground.
Sigh. OK, all were shot at EI=ISO. I'm planning to scan with my KM SD IV. Your recommendations:
1) Diafine
2) D76
3) HC-110
Remember, I have:
1 roll Arista.EDU Ultra 200 (Fomapan 200)
4 rolls Ilford HP5+
1 roll Agfa APX 100
1 roll wacky KonicaPan 100 (got D76 time from multiple translations of Japanese tech sheet).
So now what? I thought I had this figured out...
Trius
Waiting on Maitani
LOL! Well, if you're going to do any experimenting, do it with the HP5+, as you have 4 rolls and can try one and adjust.
But why take my advice? You ignored the case I made for Rodinal!
Trius
But why take my advice? You ignored the case I made for Rodinal!
Trius
K
Kin Lau
Guest
Lazy way... Diafine, and then maybe curse yourself when scanning 
Safe way... D76.
Brave way... HC110, new developer, you'll have to do some testing with Fomapan 200 first, but you'll have something to write about later.
Safe way... D76.
Brave way... HC110, new developer, you'll have to do some testing with Fomapan 200 first, but you'll have something to write about later.
GeneW
Veteran
I still think you should process your vacation films in D76 and THEN experiment with and enjoy the other brews 
Gene
Gene
bmattock
Veteran
Gene and Kin have a good 'safe way' solution - D76 - sounds right with vacation photos. Trius, sorry dude! I'll try Rodinal one day, promise!
Any other votes?
Any other votes?
T_om
Well-known
bmattock said:Hmmm. You guys! Now I dunno what to do! I done ordered the D76 AND the HC-110 from Freestyle, along with a jar of no-name non-hardening fixer. So I gotta wait for the fixer anyway, and it's all coming via UPS ground.
Sigh. OK, all were shot at EI=ISO. I'm planning to scan with my KM SD IV. Your recommendations:
1) Diafine
2) D76
3) HC-110
Remember, I have:
1 roll Arista.EDU Ultra 200 (Fomapan 200)
4 rolls Ilford HP5+
1 roll Agfa APX 100
1 roll wacky KonicaPan 100 (got D76 time from multiple translations of Japanese tech sheet).
So now what? I thought I had this figured out...
Stick them all in Diafine, at the same time, and forgetaboutit.
I use 8 spool tanks for just these situations. They can all be souped together.
Tom
titrisol
Bottom Feeder
You'd better get a bottle soon.... AgfaPhoto is history
bmattock said:Gene and Kin have a good 'safe way' solution - D76 - sounds right with vacation photos. Trius, sorry dude! I'll try Rodinal one day, promise!
Any other votes?
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