Barcelona - safety tips?

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Hoping that some Spanish RFFers will read this....

Planning a long weekend in Barcelona in mid-May. Was wondering particularly about safety - I have heard that there are lots of bag-snatchers in Barcelona... I wonder if this is just hearsay or whether i have to be extra careful when bringing camera gear around. Will be staying for a couple of nights at Castelldefels before moving on to Barcelona for the weekend. I was thinking of bringing my 35mm SLR as well as my rangefinder in a Domke F2 bag, but am a bit worried now about having my bag snatched, or worse, being mugged.

Should I ditch the 35mm gear and just bring the rangefinder + 1 lens?

Any tips?

Jin
 
AHHH My favorite city! my wife just got back and I will be there in Sept. God i wish I had money I would have a place there.
 
Don't know if Madrid is so different from Barcelona but I had no problems day or night alone or with my friends two weeks ago.
 
I've heard about this, but I spent 10 days there witth no problems whatsoever. I'm with you Skinny. If I had the dough, I'd have a place there myself.
 
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Will drop him a PM, thanks.

Also, are there any rules on tripods in Barcelona... i.e does common sense prevail, allowed on the streets, but not inside private property, or churches etc?

Jin
 
Hey Jin !

Indeed it's always better to keep with some common safety tips. There's no need to get obsessed with it (as they do in that Pnet's Barcelona travel tips article), yet observe some common precautions.

You can also get word from Francisco Solares-Larrave and get the point of view of a fellow RFFer who visited in 2004.

Pickpockets do exist, and in fact they are more active now than a couple years ago. Backpacks, waistbags and bags carried without care and out of your sight are their best target. What I always use to do is to wear my backpack in a reverse way, stuff on my belly. Not only it's way easier to reach into it for things and does less harm to my back, but also any hand trying to reach into it will pass in front of your eyes 🙂

When sitting somewhere for dinner, coffee, drink etc also be sure to have your things controlled. The terraces along La Rambla will sure serve you, but they are quite impersonal and mostly tourist oriented. Most English soccer teams fans use to spend all day there drinking beer when they visit for some match 😀

Big tourists groups when they stop to give instructions or check maps are also a favorite of them.

Try to avoid as possible highly crowded points, both in the transport (train, bus, metro) and in some streets (Ramblas), if you get into them, be sure to have your bag in your front and your things under control.

Pickpockets can have many faces, but some of the more common recently have been Eastern Europe or Moroccoan kids 'working' for their 'parents', and generally speaking people from those areas, even though there are for sure Barcelonian ones.

Watch out for sudden 'too helpful' people or others asking too many dumb questions, one of them can distract you while the other is out of your sight reaching into your possessions. If you have to stop to check a map or direction or ask for something, just don't mind walking a bit more to reach a frequented point. People looking at maps with a puzzled look is like shouting 'foreigner!' 🙂

Some of the streets side of La Rambla are wonderful photo locations, just note that when stores close, at 8 pm or so, they can get empty quite fast and some of them are not really recommendable at night.

That said, it's pretty much having common sense. If you've ever visited some of the touristic cities in Europe, the same safety tips will do.

As for cameras, if I were a camera thief I'd be used to see mainly two kinds of cameras, digital P&S and digital SLRs. Any RF for that matter is seen as an 'old funky looking camera' 🙂 There are TONS of people wearing camera bags. It's always better not to wear a giant CANON or NIKON bag, but as I said, tons of people do.

Public transportation is quite secure and also the best and cheapest way to move around. I have nothing against cab drivers but don't fancy making them richer either, only when there's no other option. When arriving, check for a tourist info center for train / buses / metro maps and plan your way around with them. I did this myself in Rome a couple weeks ago, and worked like a charm 😉

Castelldefels is quite near the airport and I think you can get a train from the airport but not direct, you'd have to commute probably at El Prat Station, so, for this it may be better to do a small sacrifice and get a taxi. It's a beach-oriented city with some wonderful beaches, depending of the zone it also has a lot of night life, which can be both good and bad...

Here's a website which can provide you with more info

http://www.bcn.es/turisme/english/turisme/

And finally, have in mind that this above is quite exaggerated, what I really recommend you is to use your common sense, always have your things under control, wander around enjoying it (I love doing that) but at the same time trying not to get lost in non-desirable areas, and not to look 'too tourist' 😉

And of course, enjoying it, because I'm sure you'll do !

Oscar

PS: Ooops, seen the tripod question: I don't use to see a lot of them here, and certainly their use inside churches etc couldn't be allowed...
 
It's a terrific city, I've spent a lot of time there, and someone did try the "can I look at your map" trick, while his friend circled around to rifle my gf's bag - she spotted him, I had Perp #1 held by his throat, but ended up letting him go. Another good friend had a horrible trick played on her in the Ramblas, where someone poured fake 'vomit' over her, then friendly passer-by helped clean her up... and of course lifted everything.

But of course these are rare events, and if you keep your credit cards in your pocket, as opposed to a wallet, you will be fine - in fact we stayed in the Ramblas, in a hotel designed by Domenich Y Montaner, a contemporary of Gaudi, and weren't troubled by the 'interesting' denizens (they seemed big on trans-sexual hookers, I recall). It is a wonderful city, I personally love the Jujol Colonia Guell church just outside the city if you're into architecture
 
I'm glad Oscar (Taffer) jumped in! 🙂

Most of the hype about safety in BCN is overstated. Granted: when I was there, two of the people with my wife's group (we had a large contingent of university alumni) were targeted by pickpockets in a metro station. But they were elderly and completeñu out of their water.

I walked down the city for hours with my Lowepro AW 3 bag in tow. Like Oscar says, I simply never put it out of my sight when I sat down to have a coffee or anything to eat, anywhere. That is to say, it was always near me. A trick to defeat bag/purse snatchers: wear the strap across your chest, and if you put the bag on the floor, make sure to secure the strap on your chair's leg.

The truth is that I used the same precautions I use when I go to Chicago: never stop to gawk (therefore revealing my condition as newcomer), never consult maps in the street (but in the safety of a café), and never carry a tripod with (too cumbersome). In BCN I didn't even try using one, because I decided to apply the same rule I live by in the US: private spaces are off limits to tripods, but if you're grip is firm enough... by all means, go for it! 🙂

Generally, it's a matter of common sense. And trust your instincts! If for some reason you don't feel too secure at some point or somewhere, just walk away. There are spots which not even natives favor, and I wouldn't even dream of going there myself.

Otherwise, it's a beautiful city, and it photographs exceedingly well. Check out Oscar's galleries and see if you can hit the Ramblas and other places, like parks, for people shots. Architecture is rich and colorful. In other words, a place worth a loooooong walk. Enjoy! 🙂
 
For what it's worth, I remember a young lady in a bar coming up to me asking me to buy her a drink, so I did, not thinking very much about it...In about two minutes, a mean-looking gypsy came up to me at the bar and demanded something for her time...I gave him some small Spanish peseta or two, I don't recall how much, just to get rid of him...And I got out of there. Lesson? You bet!...regards, bob
 
Note Paul's experiences. It's important!!! Beware of friendly strangers... big time!

However painful this may sound, Barcelonians aren't exactly the warmest pedestrians or city dwellers. They may greet you when you walk in a store and do business with them, but forget about strking a conversation with them in the street. Why? Town's style, maybe, or just the culture.

Now, nothing can match the friendliness of a Barcelonian friend! 🙂 But that's a person you met in a different context. So, if you receive offers like the ones Paul describes, be careful: they simply want to clean your pockets... and they're good at it! A gentleman in our group was wearing pants with zippered pockets and they still lifted his wallet in the metro.

A couple of tips: if you must carry credit cards, do so in a thin wallet and place it in your front pocket. Should you go to the metro and stand in it, place your hand in your pocket and your arm over the bag. It's a gesture that says "I'm not easy." The fake vomit of bird poop they may throw at you is probably mustard, so don't accept any stranger's efforts to help you wipe it... because they really want to "wipe" you clean! 🙂

Walk down the Gothic Quarter as well... and some of the Eixanche avenues (like the Passeig de Gracia), which are rich and perfect for street shots. And you must stop at the "Mesón del café" for a cup of unparallelled expresso! 🙂
 
Thank you so much for all the tips!

I will think of bringing a bag other than the Domke F2 which is quite big and unwieldy - no zips either. I will be with a friend so we can keep an eye out for each other, no problem. My usual habit when exploring any new city is to hit the pavements and keep walking - but I'll bear in mind that there are some places best left unvisited. Thanks for the tips on places to visit too, much appreciated. Will only have 2 "proper" days there but will definitely make the most of them!

Thank you all again (esp Francisco and Oscar!).

Jin
 
OK, I have another question - about transport -- from Castelldefels to Barcelona, how long is it (by taxi or by train) and if there is no direct train, how difficult is it to go by train if you don't want to use a taxi?

And are taxi drivers honest/safe in general?

I've been fleeced by too many taxi drivers in my time to take that for granted....

Jin
 
My advise, which works in lots of places is: don't wear shorts, no straw hat or baseball cap; use your "inside" voice even when outside, and always, always, always, say "please" and "thank you". Look up the native words (for please & thank-you) and ask the receptionist how to pronounce them.

Oh...and Gaudí and Dalí are pronounced "Ga-oo-dEE" and "Da-lEE", not "gawdy" or "dolly". You'll get a big thumbs up! 😉
 
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It is just like any big city.. Just watch your shit and don't talk to anyone just listen. if someone makes uncomfortable leave.. The other thing I bought this little pouch with zippers from AAA for like $10 I slide it down the front of my pants and hook it to my jeans. There I put my passport and money.. If anyone wants it they have to talk to the boys first.

Also something that will help you out is change your money at the airport. It is hard to find a bank that will change you out .you might have to pay a bit more but It is better than not having it. I hope this helps .. In general Just pay attention to you surroundings. adn enjoy. The taxi drivers drive crazy but the get you there quick.. The public bus system is kinda like their Tourist bus you can pay 16 euro and ride it all day it runs every 5mins. and is double decker open top. it goes to all the major stuff and is very convenent. You can spend as much time as you want at the spots. You catch it for your ticket at the Rambla. your hotel should have the brochure..
 
Hi Jin,

I also live in Barcelona. I agree with taffer recomendations about
security, althoug I think they are common sense for a tourist in
any large city.

About your question on the train from Castelldefels to Barcelona,
it should be around 25 minuts, less than half an hour anyway.
An it is very easy to take it. The train can leave in Barcelona at
two stations, Sants Station, which is the main hub, and from
where you probably will have to take the underground to go
around, or in Paseo de Gracia Station, which is located in the
center of the city. Probably, Paseo de Gracia will suit you more,
since from there you can go walking almost everywhere. Ah!, during
day hours there are trains quite often, but I don't know what happens
at night. Maybe you can check timetables at www.renfe.es , which
is the railway company (the web page is also in English).


I am not very fond of taxis, but as far as I know, they are quite
safe and reasonable honest.

By the way, besides the center, if ou have some spare time,
I would recomend you to visit Gracia quarter, mainly its squares,
like Plaza de Rius i Taulet, Plaza del Sol and Plaza de la Virreina.
They are lively places, full of terraces, and without the hassle of
tourist troops that wander around La Rambla.

Have a nive time in BCN

Pau
 
As for Castelldefels - Barcelona

You have two options, the most used one is the regional trains (Renfe). Castelldefels has two stops, Castelldefels itself and a smaller one called Castelldefels Platja (beach), which as its name says, leaves you by the beach 🙂

There are trains from Castelldefels to Barcelona every 15 minutes or so. You can get the tickets and travel cards at the station vending machines or at the ticket office, and remember that you have to validate them at the 'red boxes'. In Barcelona they stop at Sants Estació, Catalunya, Passeig de Gràcia and Clot.

There are also (IIRC) two bus lines from Castelldefels to Barcelona, L94 and L95 (the yellow ones, ran by Mohn). L95 leaves you at Catalunya Square in Barcelona, and L94 probably does the same.

Travel cards (but not single tickets) are integrated and they will allow you to commute between transports (buses, metro, regional catalonian trains or renfe) during 75 minutes. Castelldefels is in the urban zone 1, so you only have to get a travel card for zone 1 (called T10, 10 travels) which is 6.65€. It's not multipersonal so if you're two you can get a single one and use the same for you both.

So, for 0.65€ you can go from Barna city to Castefa an viceversa, not bad eh ? 🙂

Oscar
 
Very cheap transport! 😀 Makes us Londoners feel even more ripped off!

Anyway, thanks SO MUCH for all the tips. I'm writing them down.

Jin
 
This is very OT, but...

George (shutterflower), I'm glad you're using that avatar again. I really like it. Don't ask me why... In fact, for a while I thought it was Nicole Kidman (tell the model, I'm sure she'll like it), and the moody tones even seemed to tell a story.
 
WOW!

Reading this thread makes me glad I live in the safe bosom of NYC! 😎

You can carry your gear, plug in your IPod and chat on your cell w/o fear!

I LUV NY! 😀 😀
 
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